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My Avondale Ulysses was 229 cms and the Panorama XL Scenic I had never fitted properly - I was surprised what a difference a few centimetres could make.

I can't understand why they don't make ones for shorter vans as there are a lot about which are below 230 cms. The one I have now is about 211 cms.

The only answer I get from the manufacturers is to try a motorcaravan awning - all very well but they are more involved to erect, like putting a tent up, and a lot are too short as they are designed for VW campervans etc - awning rails up to 210 cms. Only the Movelite by Outdoor Revolution would seem to fit my caravan and I don't like it.

Thanks, Scampi. I tried an Easi Canopy last weekend but it was only up an hour and a gust of wind pulled out the peg one side and threw it right over the other side, bent both poles beyond repair.

Hey ho, back to the drawing board.

I bought a camper van awning for our ABI caravan as i could not find a porch awning to fit the low sides of our van.It is a NR one and with the adjustable height of the tunnel connection.Have not been able to try it out yet (van in storage) but dont see why it wont fit ok.Besides it was a bargain from local camp shop at St.Leonards Dorset.£.75.as opposed to £.300.or so.NR sent me a set of instructions on request on their web site.Very helpfull company,especially as I bought it second hand.