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07/11/2008 at 8:29am
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Hi,

Our caravan is a Geist 495 Aktiv and comes with blow heating on electric and gas. It works better if started up on gas first but is fine to leave on low (500w) on electric overnight.

Some of the imported vans like mine have holes punched in the heater pipes under all the seats / storage areas etc.... has anyone tried to block off some of the holes so that heat is directed more towards the area you would prefer i.e. towards the rear on the van that is furthest away from the heater.

We do have "butterfly" vents that we can close in some area and this helps but its not as warm at the rear of the van (childrens end) than at the front.

Has anyone blocked off some of the holes and how ?

Andy

  



07/11/2008 at 8:59am
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There is normally a flap at the back of the Truma fire that can direct the air either to the back or front of the van. Put your hand down the back and after a while you will find a flap that movesup and down. Suggest you do it while it is cold or your arm gets rather warm!

As for blocking the holes, we don't have any holes. Have you got mice???????



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07/11/2008 at 10:13am
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On our Coachman, there are smaller pipes running behind each panel of the forward settee backs, and these pipes have vent holes along their length.   Because these pipes are much smaller than the main system, I think they take hardly any heat unless you close all the butterfly flaps.

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07/11/2008 at 10:17am
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The holes are or should be on the top and along the walls, this should direct warm air though vent's/more holes in the bed box top, up the wall and behind a board at the back of the cushion. The whole idea is to stop condensation and give better all round heating.

As John says you can adjust the amount of air delivered front or rear with a plastic arm hanging between the heater pipes where they go into the fan housing



07/11/2008 at 10:32am
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Great - i will look out for that and adjust the flap.

p.s. the holes as described above are put in by the manufacturer to give "central heating" but tends not to be a practice in UK vans, i think

Thanks

Andy



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07/11/2008 at 10:42am
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Quote: Originally posted by asdj45 on 07/11/2008

Great - i will look out for that and adjust the flap.

p.s. the holes as described above are put in by the manufacturer to give "central heating" but tends not to be a practice in UK vans, i think

Thanks

Andy



Post last edited on 07/11/2008 10:39:11

Not true. You could not get more "UK" than a coachman!

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07/11/2008 at 10:50am
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Ok no problem but not the real point of the post. I stand corrected

Andy



07/11/2008 at 11:04am
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dont know if it would work but can you not extend the ducting?

Air ducting diameter 65mm
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07/11/2008 at 11:13am
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Hi thanks for the replies. As above the holes and ducting (large bore) run throughout the van and the manufacturer puts holes in the top of the ducting all over the van. I think the answer is the check this plastic flap "thingy" at the rear of the unit as suggested above to give a more even flow front / back of the van.

Thanks for your suggestions / tips

Regards

Andy  



07/11/2008 at 11:16am
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welcome,just thought you could re-direct the heat to where you needed it most.no problem.

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Quote: Originally posted by asdj45 on 07/11/2008

Hi,

Our caravan is a Geist 495 Aktiv and comes with blow heating on electric and gas. It works better if started up on gas first but is fine to leave on low (500w) on electric overnight.

Some of the imported vans like mine have holes punched in the heater pipes under all the seats / storage areas etc.... has anyone tried to block off some of the holes so that heat is directed more towards the area you would prefer i.e. towards the rear on the van that is furthest away from the heater.

We do have "butterfly" vents that we can close in some area and this helps but its not as warm at the rear of the van (childrens end) than at the front.

Has anyone blocked off some of the holes and how ?

Andy

  





Hi, we also have a Geist.

Poking holes in the blown air pipes is an LMC (makers of the van) speciality - I don't quite see the point of it, but there you are.

It's never been an issue for us because [1] we don't caravan in the winter and, consequently, rarely have the heating on because the Geist is so well insulated, and [2] we never use hook ups - so the fan is a luxury that we don't use in order to onserve the battery.

If we did ever want blown air, I think I'd invest in a roll off gaffer tape and cover the holes - a tedious job, I suspect.



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08/11/2008 at 3:34pm
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Divided views, as usual.  One thing that has come out of this for me, is that I wasn't aware of the plastic flap facility in our 2006 Coachman, so I will be looking to see if it actually exists.

Bertie.



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08/11/2008 at 4:07pm
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Bertie

The flap is not plastic it is metal.

 



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what is the point of having holes in the trunking, except at the outlets bloody daft if you ask me.mind you i,ve got a coachman and i had to fit blown air into the bathroom myself coz coachman dont.

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09/11/2008 at 4:55pm
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Hi all

I found the metal flap - more like a lever on my van at the rear of the heater. It can be moved left or right to make the warm air flow more or less to the rear outlets. I will give it a go later this month when we next go out in the van.

Thanks for all your help

Andy



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Quote: Originally posted by asdj45 on 09/11/2008

Hi all

I found the metal flap - more like a lever on my van at the rear of the heater. It can be moved left or right to make the warm air flow more or less to the rear outlets. I will give it a go later this month when we next go out in the van.

Thanks for all your help

Andy


Sorry Andy, I should have said it was a lever that worked a flap!!!

 



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