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24/3/2009 at 8:57pm
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Hi

We have just taken our Bailey Ranger 500/5 2007 for its anual service. Everything was ok with it when we last used it in October last year but during the service they have found that the gas regulator was blocked. I have read of the issues with the truma regulators on here previously but what is the fix. The service guy is fitting a new regulator and talking about a 90 degree elbow between the pigtail and the regulator that will stop if failing again.

Is anyone aware of this modification and does it work ?



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24/3/2009 at 9:00pm
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I believe the issue was to do with the polymers within the gas pipe (Pig tail) were breaking down and blocking the regulator. I think the only fix was a replacement


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24/3/2009 at 9:44pm
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Hi, The engineer should replace the regulator, refit the new one as close to the top of the ga locker as possible and fit an 90 degree elbow to the regulator so the pigtail runs down to the gas bottle, this is to allow any contaminants to drain back to the bottle instead of the regulator.

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24/3/2009 at 9:51pm
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Nothing to do with the gas hose, the problem is something akin to thin oil in the bottle propelled out by the gas. It's not present in all bottles so it's something of a lottery if you get a dirty bottle in the first place and then if it gets out ?

This oil has always been an issue but would pass straight through the older style 'single stage' bottle mounted regulator, it now gets trapped between the stages in the Truma supplied GOK 'two stage' regulator and blocks it.

Solution is to change the Truma/GOK bulkhead regulator to a 'Cleese' regulator, you can get these on their own from bes.co.uk for around £14. Anyone that reads caravan magazines can see or buy the same regulator advertised in a kit by Gaslow. The kit also contains a stainless butane/propane hose to replace the rubber one, the good thing about this hose is it will last 20 years.



25/3/2009 at 11:49am
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Quote: Originally posted by arc systems on 24/3/2009

Nothing to do with the gas hose,




have a read of This


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25/3/2009 at 1:20pm
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Just had exactly the same problem, had to buy a new regulator in the end, Swift told us it wasn't there issue as its a truma warranty claim, and truma said it was swifts so had to bite the bullet and pay the £40 and my dad fitted it for me,

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25/3/2009 at 2:02pm
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I fitted the Gaslow hose and remounted my regulator see pics .

Old position
553

New position
461

atb

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25/3/2009 at 8:29pm
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Quote: Originally posted by CandP on 25/3/2009
Quote: Originally posted by arc systems on 24/3/2009

Nothing to do with the gas hose,




have a read of This

Of course I have and the original report but it did not change my opinion one iota

In defence of those that did the testing, it's pretty obvious they would not be supplied with a 'dirty' bottle of gas to test, casting around and finding the same substance in the hose would seem a reasonable scapegoat; however, the original report itself cast doubt on this, as it's impossible for there to be enough present in half a meter of hose!!.

It's just a shame then they never gave a thought to ask the trade, then they would have been told loud and clear where to look, the problems been around a lot lot longer 2004!!



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sorry c&p , agreed with gary on this one

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26/3/2009 at 6:50am
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No need to apologise, I am new to this caravanning lark. So I can only take onboard what I read in caravanning mags.


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Perhaps I should then? I read  'have you read this' and reacted! sorry


26/3/2009 at 8:15pm
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Thanks for the replies.

I have just got the van back and the new regulator is similar to the one in the top picture of Wizards post but the 90 degree connector is integrated. Hopefully this will sort the problem.

 



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27/3/2009 at 7:16pm
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Hi Gary

Just to be sure. Is it part no. 16543 from bes.co.uk at £16.98 + v.a.t. ?

It's a lot cheaper than the dealers are charging for Truma's.

Can you also confirm the fittings are the same size as the Truma please.

Thanks

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Yes thats the kiddy albeit it's gone up a bit, shows how much the pound has dropped?!

I'm not 100% sure it's the same fitting but it's designed for the purpose so it would be pretty silly not to be the same!

Looking on page 58, item 12673 would also seem a very useful extra bit of kit to spend some of the saving on?  



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all fine if you system uses 10mm pipe (the reg has a 10mm conection ) but if its 8mm you will need a 10mm to 8mm adaptor and a bit of pipe ( but this will mean your lifting the reg up too like wizards , the 12673 is a good idea too (gary you get a gold star ),

the thing is people are stuck on buying whats there ,truma must love it , i like the Cleese regulator much better than the gok one ,but iam not that keen on bcs , they seam lose things expencive that are returned (never the cheap) last time it was two 20m lenghts of copper pipe that was dammaged (well i think it was a manufactor fault) they lost two out of three items in the box . and it was packed/taped up like a bomb so just be aware

Post last edited on 28/03/2009 08:41:05

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Yes found that gauge by accident looking for the correct regulator, my biggest gripe about this new system is if the high pressure hoses busts??

I've seen enough old hoses leaking under the old system to know it's going to happen sooner or later, especially as this new system passes into neglected old vans. That gauge though shuts off the bottle if a pipe should bust and so preventing what could be a catastrophic gas leak.

My hope though is that the powers that be wake up and put the regulator back on the bottle before it becomes an issue.

On the subject of pipe size, I'd be very surprised if a modern van has an 8mm main feed pipe, the odd very short van maybe, but most will have 10mm to supply enough volume of gas so all appliances can work at the same time




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