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09/4/2009 at 7:04pm
 Location: Swadlincote
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hi. this is our first season caravanning it is sited, but already it has been broken into, is this the sort of thing we are likely to frequently expect or are we unlucky, think i will leave door unlocked and take tv etc out, would like to hear your thoughts, thanks ann


09/4/2009 at 7:18pm
 Location: Kent Coast
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Ann, so sorry to hear of your bad luck. Our van is not sited but stored on a farm when not touring. Don't know whether it could be the fact that your van is obviously sited makes it an easy target or maybe it's in an area which has a proliferation of sites where the local villains are quick to catcth on to an easy target. We've been lucky and our current van has never been touched. Tho' about 20 years ago we had our old Sprite broken into whilst in our own back garden. Nothing was stolen and it was obvious that all the intruder wanted was a nights kip. Hope you have better luck in the future........Mick


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09/4/2009 at 7:40pm
 Location: Yeadon Leeds!
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had mine broken into outside my house a couple of weeks ago, only a couple of CDs taken, and everything else pulled out of cupboards, I dont keep anything of value in there anyway.
I have now upgraded the door and front window locks, and added a webcam with some motion detection software to my PC.


11/4/2009 at 4:34pm
 Location: Norf
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I hate being the bad news guy here, but Ive locked up some serious caravan thieves and its still a good market in the criminal world.

My advice to the OP is to get the van moved - if its one of those areas, then it will happen again. As with domestic burglaries, one of the most common tricks is to revisit the scene when the stuff has been replaced and nick it again.

Caravans are not designed to be secure, you cannot make enough locks to make them secure. There is an easy way to get the door off with little effort - I of course wont publish that here, also a dead easy way to remove most wheel clamps with no tools at all. The windows can be easily prised as they are just plastic fittings.

We have to accept that these vans are easy to get in, preventative measures such as good home lighting (if stored at home) - good security awareness and general common sense is the answer. A big tip - thieves hate CCTV - a dummy camera mounted high on the house is a fantastic deterrent if you cant afford a real one.

As for seasonal sites - well the bad news again is that is the main target. The thieves know that generally during the week you wont be there - you can try the old tricks such as timed lights, radio on sort of thing - but another tip is to actually advertise your van is empty with nothing in it. A notice outside stating "van is emptied of all valuables when unoccupied" can actually work and leave the blinds up so they can see in.. not nice but actually works.

I am not a fan of alarms - people dont care nowadays - how many times do you hear an alarm going off and do nothing but tut?

The only time I would recommend one is if the pitch opposite is always occupied and this would alert them or if stored at home and would alert YOU.

Most casual thieves would run off if a loud alarm sounded and there was a chance of being spotted. But again, vans arent designed to fit them and most of these cheap motion alarms can be simply pulled off the wall and put under a cushion. The best alarm is one where the sounder box has a seperate battery supply and is hidden under the van.

No great news here, vans will never be secure, the locks are purely decoration and serve no real purpose.

Get off that site, if it's a targetted area. Speak to the local Police when looking at any seasonal pitch - most will be happy to tell you if they have had many thefts from that area. OK, any pitch can get casual thieves - in fact the nature of the type of theft (low value property) is just druggie scumbags wanting a £20 fix will mean no site is safe. BUT some sites are in particular hotspots and these should be avoided as it is easy money.

This is one reason I dont seasonal pitch - its just too obvious.

And what is the biggest indicator you are not in?? NO CAR OUTSIDE!!! Not 100% fool proof, but that will often get their interest.

The good news is, unlike the continent, aggravated caravan theft (when you are actually in bed when they break in) is rare as it is very risky and very tricky due to the size to not wake the occupants (plus they get a lot of jail for those). PLUS most of this type of thief are druggies and not very fit and healthy and very susceptible to a good pasting if caught.

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11/4/2009 at 6:48pm
 Location: Bristol
 Outfit: Lunar Conquest 544 a
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Sean P , thanks mate , some excellent tips there , would it be ok to put your post on my website so it can reach more caravaners . Also if you have any other caravan security tips please post them .

atb

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11/4/2009 at 7:37pm
 Location: Norf
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I'd be honoured wizzard. I'll compile a few more and email them to you. Would be nice to impart 17 years of dealing with lowlife to help someone!

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11/4/2009 at 7:44pm
 Location: Chorley
 Outfit:  Sterling 480 Continental - VolvoV90
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Thanks for an excellent post Sean.

Some great advice.
Its just a shame that we need it.
Nothing is safe these days!

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11/4/2009 at 7:45pm
 Location: Bristol
 Outfit: Lunar Conquest 544 a
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Thanx mate .

atb

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12/4/2009 at 8:39am
 Location: Bristol
 Outfit: Lunar Conquest 544 a
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Hi Sean i've uploaded your info http://www.1carpc.co.uk/wcdr/protect-your-caravan.htm , i've made a few slight changes to it , so that it reads as applying to everyone rather than to one person , could you have a quick read through and make sure your happy with how it reads . If you'd like to make any changes just email them to me and i'll get it changed for you .

Thanks Wizard


12/4/2009 at 1:05pm
 Location: Norf
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Mate, I've gone mad and done a bigger one. I hope you like it. Sorry to mess you around but I have been typing away. I'm honoured it goes onto such a good site and hope this one is even more ueful. Hope you dont mind. Ive emailed it to you now.



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12/4/2009 at 3:59pm
 Location: Bristol
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Hi Sean , thanks got it , i'll have a good read and then post it on my site , probably be tomorrow sometime as i'm away at the mo .

atb

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13/4/2009 at 9:29pm
 Location: Swadlincote
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hi , sorry been away for easter, thanks for tips, will take them on board,  will now remove anything of value and leave shutters up, spoke to owners of site and people who have had vans on this site for years last incident was 3 years ago dont know if this is a good average or not  but fingers crossed by taking a few of your tips we might be  ok, many thanks ann.



13/4/2009 at 10:31pm
 Location: Gloucestershire
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SeanP

I have read your information about the criminals and their activities with great interest.  I hope everyone will read it as it is so helpful.  I tend to have a suspicious nature and do put into practice many of the things you talk about but there are many more that I would not have thought of.  The added information regarding safety of children is also a good wake up call.  I would never leave my daughter and now my grandchildren on their own in a tent or hotel room, or let them go to the toilet block alone - as with poor little Maddie, it can and does happen. 

Thank you very much for taking the time to do this, and to Wizard for putting it on the web.

Carol



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13/4/2009 at 11:08pm
 Location: Norf
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Wow - thanks Carol. Really nice to know you find it useful.

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