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Subject Topic: Just another day on the road Post Reply Post New Topic
04/5/2009 at 9:18pm
 Location: Teesside
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Drove down to London and back this weekend without the van on the back for once. On the way we saw:

  • One caravan stopped by police and being given the once over.
  • One elderly caravan being towed at 60mph with one wheel pointing in quite a different direction to the rest of the outfit.
  • Three caravans which passed us doing at least 75mph
  • One serious snaking incident right in front of us. Outfit was doing 55mph, straight road, no-one in front of them.
  • Four other unstable outfits swaying all over the road.
  • More than a dozen huge double axle vans being towed by something ridiculously small  (not including the one being towed by a recovery truck with the small car backloaded).
  • About a quarter of units with no towing mirrors - lost count after the first 10 minutes.

Otherwise we had quite a safe journey.

 



04/5/2009 at 9:28pm
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04/5/2009 at 9:33pm
 Location: stockport
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wow i hope you were driving ok, all that looking for faults on people towing?


04/5/2009 at 9:58pm
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& until you get caravans in this country treated as proper road vehicles with registration & numberplates by the DVLA & MOT tests(same as most other European countries)nowt will change.

We have to accept that many people nowadays have zero mechanical knowledge & zero concept of roadcraft but at least they realise their cars have to be taxed/insured/serviced, unfortunately they wont regard caravans/trailers in the same way until caravans/trailers are recognized in this country as proper road vehicles.

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04/5/2009 at 10:01pm
 Location: Liverpool
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I hope you were not driving at the same time.

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04/5/2009 at 10:23pm
 Location: cheshire
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About a quarter of units with no towing mirrors - lost count after the first 10 minutes

1st of all I don't want this to sound like I'm having a go but Just out of interest why do people need towing mirrors because I for 1 don't use them. The reason I dont use them is because I don't need them. my car is a citroen c5 so it's a wide car anyway, plus the van I pull isnt that wide and if I still can't see the vehicle behind me doesn't that mean they are travelling to close to me. (sorry about the rant, I just dont like being put in a group lol) 



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04/5/2009 at 10:30pm
 Location:  Dumfries
 Outfit: 2022 CoachmanVIP 2022 Pilote P696GJ
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 I welcome the day roadside checks become more common , it has to happen and the sooner the better and as for these numpty's who insist on towing huge twin axles with grossly unsuitable and in many instances illegal tow cars they need nailed simple as that . ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law advice is free from all the main clubs

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04/5/2009 at 10:39pm
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Quote: Originally posted by r-kid on 04/5/2009

About a quarter of units with no towing mirrors - lost count after the first 10 minutes

1st of all I don't want this to sound like I'm having a go but Just out of interest why do people need towing mirrors because I for 1 don't use them. The reason I dont use them is because I don't need them. my car is a citroen c5 so it's a wide car anyway, plus the van I pull isnt that wide and if I still can't see the vehicle behind me doesn't that mean they are travelling to close to me. (sorry about the rant, I just dont like being put in a group lol) 


If you were to be checked the Police would stand at the back of your caravan and if they could not see your mirrors you would be commiting an offence , however if your van is narrower than some you would be o.k . As a rule of thumb if your caravan is wider than your towcar extending mirrors are required


05/5/2009 at 12:32am
 Location: West Cumbria
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I thought it had just been made law to HAVE to use towing mirrors in this country?? Maybe I dreamt it!!

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05/5/2009 at 6:43am
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You have to be able to see round the caravan, it depends in the width, if its narrow like a Eriba you dont need towing mirrors, if its wide, you do.

As for roadside checks, they are getting less & less these days, we have electronic policing, its cheaper.

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05/5/2009 at 7:18am
 Location: notts
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we dont use towing mirrors for the simple reason our huge 17 seater minibus already has massive industrial size mirrors on , bigger than 2 dinner plates, and is they were any wider we'd be needing 2 lanes lol


05/5/2009 at 10:06am
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We can see through our caravan as it has a rear window and our tow car is high enough to see through, we also can see down the sides of the caravan as the sedona is fairly wide.


05/5/2009 at 10:17am
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QUOTE I thought it had just been made law to HAVE to use towing mirrors in this country?? Maybe I dreamt it!!

If this is the case then I am sorry for my post.

QUOTE If you were to be checked the Police would stand at the back of your caravan and if they could not see your mirrors you would be commiting an offence

just out of interest how far do the police stand behind the van to check, because to be fair wouldn't It have to be the overall stopping distance at 60mph (240ft 73m) plus why don't the police do this to HGV's because their vision is just as restricted as a caravan.



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05/5/2009 at 10:19am
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you are forgetting , it was truckfest this w/e , so every one gets loaded up and go on the road, they think that they are truckers,

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05/5/2009 at 12:40pm
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Quote: Originally posted by yung on 04/5/2009
I hope you were not driving at the same time.

Yes half the time. It was a good job I was watching carefully what was going on otherwise I would not have seen one unstable caravan start snaking as I was about to overtake it on a dual carriageway and slowed up in time. Otherwise my family and I could all be now recovering in hospital or worse as it snaked across both lanes.

 




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