we have got a 5 berth van at the moment but want to change to a 6 berth with fixed bunks purely for space and ease at night time, i am fed up of making the beds up for the kids and thought having a 6 berth with fixed bunks would be better. Please advice me on what to do as i dont want to make a costly mistake
Try to get one like the bailey triple bunk layout not the ones which are across the back we have an avondale dart with the bunks across the back and there is nowhere to change or for the kids to have their own space we are looking to change our van but will have to wait.
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We changed to a 6 berth with fixed bunk's at the side and an end bathroom it's so much easier, now we have somewhere to get changed and kid's can go to bed when they want no more waiting for mum and dad to make up the bed's. In the morning we still have the side dinette for breakfast for the first one up (usually me).
We have the Bailey fixed triple bunk layout and think its great.
We like the fact that the kids have their own space at the end of the 'van and we can close them off in their own space at night. The eldest lad (18 yrs old) still comes with us and says he gets a good nights sleep on the bunk.
The trade off is a small washroom. Thats not a problem for us though as we tend to use the shower blocks anyway.
We have a Bailey fixed triple bunk and we have managed to sleep two adults and two kids in the back.
Normally there is only 3 of us (wife & I with a 7 year old) so having the extra space to 'close' little one off at night is so much better than when we had a side dinette with just the curtain. As the bunks on our's are 6' long, I can't think of a better family layout. Granted the washroom is small, but you have to remember you spend longer in the lounge than on the loo!!! Not building bunks from a side dinettes really makes caravanning much more enjoyable.
I agree with you Jo, you do need somewhere to get changed / dried and the end bedroom allows that.
We have the Adria 542UK 2008 with the bunks going lengthways at the back of van. They are big and comfy. The Kids beds are left up all day (made), and still a small single at the back where the rear dinette is if need be. Setup is absolutley brill. Have looked at other van since getting ours with the beds across the back and deem this to be the best solution for space and comfort. The back section can be closed off fully at night via a folding screen door. The kids love it as well as it is there space in the van. As for the triple bunks, My daughter declared that if you wanted to sleep on the floor (lower 3rd bunk) then why not just put a camp matress down and sleeping bag use that and save money on the third bunk. Also the 542 Uk gives as far as we have seen the largest amount of headroom on each bunk with each having a large separate window and night light.
The adria altea range do a triple bunk layout with a side dinette aswell and quite a large washroom at the back, Ok the kids don't have there own room but they still have the side dinette table to play on and you don't lose as much bathroom space,
It depends what you use the van for really, we go to CL's and no facility sites so need a bigger bathroom,
We are seriously considering the adria when we change
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We had a five berth van and i was the same making the beds everynight so we have got a 5 berth twin axle with fixed bunks and i love it, alot easy and the kids go and read on the beds are play with they toys, i am glad we made the move.
We got so fed up with bed making that when on site we used to leave our bunks up in our 5 berth, but that reduced living space.
So fixed berths was high on our list when we eventually found the Geist 565 we were thrilled it has the option of a sixth berth but we were happy with the 5. We chose the Geist as the beds were bigger than on most useful as kids get bigger and it has an unusual layout, which we love.
We have the Bailey Pageant Bretagne S7 as our first 'van with 3 kids. It was the triple side bunk that swung it for us. We compared to the Lunar Quasar with the similar layout and bigger bathroom but deiced the Bailey had better storage. As Zafiral says, you spend more time in the lounge than the loo!
Swift / Sterling now have a triple bunk version too now and the bathroom looks slightly better than the Bailey (fixed shower screens and no curtain), but it wasn't available when we bought, and frankly the shower in the Bailey is fine.
Having the fixed bunks is fantastic - no making up beds, our 3 year old can have a midday nap without any fuss and the wooden partition really gives a feel of two separate rooms. Each bunk has its own window and light, the bottom one folds up to give storage for aquaroll / wastemaster on the move.
The rear lounge is an excellent space for the kids to do their own thing, we have the TV in there mounted on the wall, and they love to use it for breakfast and lunch in their own setting - all 3 fit round the table with no problem.
The other compromise you make here (as well as the small bathroom) is with the kitchen - work surface space is limited - but with the large lounge / table this works fine.
We had Lunar quasar fb with the fixed bunks at the side and large end bathroom. Was great until we did winter caravanning and found that we were all cramped at one end come the early evening looking at all that space taken up by fixed bunks and big bathroom!! Also had to walk past bunks to get in and out of van and to go to the loo disturbing the kids all the time. Watch the width and length of the bunks as our daughter grew so fast she was touching at both ends!
Changed to Eldiss Superstorm FANTASTIC ! Kids have own room at end can leave beds up if we want and pull blind across or if not stuff bedding under one bed and they have there own room with tv playstation etc. Bathroom is ok shower actually bigger than in FB and so is the loo! can have nap in afternoon as can put windows blinds down and pull blind across so not disturbed.
The new one is so flexible we can even make the back into massive double if we go away without kids so like having fixed bed!
Another vote for the Bailey triple bunks here. Weve only got two kids, but found that the triple bunk allows alot of space for storage. The end bedroom is fabulous with the kids, and when they wake up in the morning, they occupy themselves and we don't get squashed by kids leaping on us (which is lovely).
I'd echo the comments about the smaller washroom, however, we always tend to use the facilities on site, so overall, no great loss.
I'm very very pleased that we changed from our previous van (ranger 550/6), which although had the fixed bunks, it didn't allow the kids any other space.
thanks guys my head is spinning now tho LOL
the kids like the way they have teir own space in the van at the moment as tey haev their own bit at the end of the van, so i think its going to have be one of those vans with a bit at the end for them. i'll read thru all your posts to find the ones with the end bedroom and bits for the kids and have a look at some pics of them and price LOL. thansk alot i'll show hubby your posts and maybe that will persuade him as he is the one that doesnt want to spend anymore money. thankyou again
the Bailey Pageant Bretagne S7 is a nice van i have just looked - is it a 2009 model thats just come out as they are al about 15 grand. if it is a new van and layout are there any with similar layouts but not as expensive
looked at the eldiss superstorm and the layout is exactly the same as what we have got now with the 2 sofas at the back for the kids, I would still have to make the beds up unless the sofas are long enough for them to lye down on without having to make up into a bed!!!!!!!!!!!