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14/5/2009 at 4:11pm
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Hi

I have just moved from camping gaz to butane, i find it cooks really slow. (driving me mad).. Some one has told me its because of the regulator, The one that is on my cooker is 28mbar.. I haven't a clue, could some body please give some help..

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14/5/2009 at 5:57pm
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I'm sure someone will be along soon who's much more knowledgeable that I am - but I do know you need different regulators for different types of gas.

Personally I use propane because I think it cooks quicker than butane, but other people disagree.

Nora


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14/5/2009 at 6:11pm
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thank you Nora..

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Campingaz is butane, A bit more description is required, are you talking about a bulkhead mounted regulator on your caravan or a regulator fixed directly to the gas bottle?

If its a bottle mounted regulator whether butane or propane it must be the correct one or it would'nt fit the bottle, how old is the regulator? they dont last forever.

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15/5/2009 at 11:43am
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Quote: Originally posted by Max-and-Paddy on 14/5/2009


 
Personally I use propane because I think it cooks quicker than butane, but other people disagree.

Nora

Lol, I think it's a moot point. I find my kettles boiled quicker on butane.



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15/5/2009 at 5:58pm
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I guessed you'd be along, Caz, I think we've had this discussion before! ;-)

Nora


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Hi

Old style cylinder Butane regulators are 28 mbar

Old Style Propane are 37mbar

Bulkhead regulators are 30 mbar and are suitable for Propane or Butane on new appliances

(most, if not all new appliances will work on all 3 of the above)

As for what's quicker I don't know about the summer months but I use Propane because it doesn't freeze in the winter.

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apparently, though don;t know if it's true, but alledgedly, propane gets hot quicker than propane (if that makes any sense!!!)

We're changing to propane, but we bought 3x 4.5kg butanes last year when we bought the van, but as we use EHU & have a fantastic little oil filled rad (it's tiny), we've not finished the 1st cylinder yet.  We didn't even have 240v hot water until this season - used site facilities & boiled water for everything else in a kettle (electric) so if anyone fancies a swap (butane for propane) let me know!!!



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18/5/2009 at 1:07pm
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hi Salaam,

Its a regulator fixed straight onto a bottle...I should imagine its quite old as i was given it, i have also had my cooker for donkeys years..Maybe i will just have to suffer it for the time being..

thanks to all for your comments

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If your cooker worked ok on the Campingaz bottle & regulator presumabley the regulator you are using now is faulty. If the rubber gas pipe is old you should replace that as bits can flake off inside & block the regulator.

If you go to a caravan shop you can buy a new regulator & a metre of rubber pipe for a few £s.

If the cooker is well used unscrew the burners & clean them out. Then everything should work ok.

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18/5/2009 at 6:22pm
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Simple chemistry is that:

1. Camping Gaz is butane.

2. Propane burns at a lower temperature than butane.

3. Petrol burns at much higher temperatures.

In optimum conditions a butane fuelled stove will boil a kettle faster than a propane one but you'd be hard pushed to measure the difference but a Coleman "dual fuel" stove (which uses petrol) is noticeably faster.

However, butane boils/evaporates at higher temperatures than propane. As a result, on cold mornings or in the winter, you may struggle to get a kettle to boil at all on butane (Camping Gaz).

HTH.

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19/5/2009 at 10:00am
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thank you every body..

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We have a Calor 2 burner stove that works directly off a 4.5kg cylinder - no regulator.  Did Campingaz ever do a similar stove?

Mike

 



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Campingaz do(or did)a 2 burner arrangement that screwed directly into Campingaz bottle.

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