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28/5/2009 at 9:38am
 Location: Falkirk Scotland
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Thinking of changing to this caravan next year anyone got one yet and whats your opinion of the senator ranger as a whole and the california in particular.

Have got a eldiss oddessy 544 just now love the smoked windows, but the blow air heating is crap!

Had a bailey pagaent provence changed it due to layout, dont remember the heating being an issue on the bailey, we rally in the winter and go away at xmas and new year so need a warm van

 



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28/5/2009 at 10:27am
 Location:  Dumfries
 Outfit: 2022 CoachmanVIP 2022 Pilote P696GJ
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Quote: Originally posted by saxoann on 28/5/2009

Thinking of changing to this caravan next year anyone got one yet and whats your opinion of the senator ranger as a whole and the california in particular.

Have got a eldiss oddessy 544 just now love the smoked windows, but the blow air heating is crap!

Had a bailey pagaent provence changed it due to layout, dont remember the heating being an issue on the bailey, we rally in the winter and go away at xmas and new year so need a warm van

 


Not being funny mate but we bought the pangeant sancerre which is identical to the senator california in dimensions and layout , after looking at the california we were of the opinion that difference between the two vans did not warrant the £2,000 extra as for you extra cash all you get extra is (1) onboard water tank

                                                       (2)tracker for one year

                                                       (3) flat screen tv with dvd

                                                        (4) alko wheel lock

                                                        (5) heated towel rail

                                                        (6) electric flush toilet

 

 And a few cosmetic changes which is hardly worth £2000 in price difference



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28/5/2009 at 11:31am
 Location: Cambridge
 Outfit: Bailey Senator California KIA Sportage
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Hi there, we got one of the first off the production line back in Feb and would not change it for the world. We had the same layout before but with a tiny little bathroom and WC. we always wanted the rear batheroom but i did not want to go twin axle. This suits us fine and love everyhting. At one point we thought we would wait for the Sancerre but to be honest we did not like the interior. All down to taste really and what you like. I can see we will stay with this van now for a good many years. Good luck.

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28/5/2009 at 12:21pm
 Location: Falkirk Scotland
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have any of you tried the van out in cold weather yet, is the blow air warm enough.

think i like the look of the california over the sancerre, ( although funnily enough sancerre is my most favourite wine )

wish they would do smoky windows, love the privacy of them and definately keep the van cooler abroad in summer



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28/5/2009 at 1:22pm
 Location: Cambridge
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We took delivery of the van on 10th Feb. on the 13th we drove to a site near where we live as wanted to go away for valantines. We drove there in a blizzard and by the time we set up we were under 6 inches of snow and spent the weekend like it. heating was great only needed the warm air where as in our old van when we were away for new year we needed warm air and the gas running at the same time. Nice and cosy.

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28/5/2009 at 1:26pm
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excellent, we dont use the blow air at all in our elddis its hopeless

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28/5/2009 at 6:40pm
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Quote: Originally posted by neil and lena on 28/5/2009
Quote: Originally posted by saxoann on 28/5/2009

Thinking of changing to this caravan next year anyone got one yet and whats your opinion of the senator ranger as a whole and the california in particular.

Have got a eldiss oddessy 544 just now love the smoked windows, but the blow air heating is crap!

Had a bailey pagaent provence changed it due to layout, dont remember the heating being an issue on the bailey, we rally in the winter and go away at xmas and new year so need a warm van

 


Not being funny mate but we bought the pangeant sancerre which is identical to the senator california in dimensions and layout , after looking at the california we were of the opinion that difference between the two vans did not warrant the £2,000 extra as for you extra cash all you get extra is (1) onboard water tank

                                                       (2)tracker for one year

                                                       (3) flat screen tv with dvd

                                                        (4) alko wheel lock

                                                        (5) heated towel rail

                                                        (6) electric flush toilet

 

 And a few cosmetic changes which is hardly worth £2000 in price difference



Couldn't agree more Sancerre is a cracking van and like you I didn't think the extra £2k was worth it and the Senator is a heavier van which will cost extra in fuel over its lifetime. Have to disagree with you re location of gods' country, I think you'll find its called Yorkshire!

Dave


28/5/2009 at 7:09pm
 Location:  Dumfries
 Outfit: 2022 CoachmanVIP 2022 Pilote P696GJ
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Quote: Originally posted by dave8858 on 28/5/2009
Quote: Originally posted by neil and lena on 28/5/2009
Quote: Originally posted by saxoann on 28/5/2009

Thinking of changing to this caravan next year anyone got one yet and whats your opinion of the senator ranger as a whole and the california in particular.

Have got a eldiss oddessy 544 just now love the smoked windows, but the blow air heating is crap!

Had a bailey pagaent provence changed it due to layout, dont remember the heating being an issue on the bailey, we rally in the winter and go away at xmas and new year so need a warm van

 


Not being funny mate but we bought the pangeant sancerre which is identical to the senator california in dimensions and layout , after looking at the california we were of the opinion that difference between the two vans did not warrant the £2,000 extra as for you extra cash all you get extra is (1) onboard water tank

                                                       (2)tracker for one year

                                                       (3) flat screen tv with dvd

                                                        (4) alko wheel lock

                                                        (5) heated towel rail

                                                        (6) electric flush toilet

 

 And a few cosmetic changes which is hardly worth £2000 in price difference



Couldn't agree more Sancerre is a cracking van and like you I didn't think the extra £2k was worth it and the Senator is a heavier van which will cost extra in fuel over its lifetime. Have to disagree with you re location of gods' country, I think you'll find its called Yorkshire!

Dave

Your right about the Sancerre  but cant agree on the other Ha Ha , I think Yorkshire came second on the Almightys list


28/5/2009 at 7:12pm
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I'm sure there are still parts of Scotland christianity still hasn't reached :p


28/5/2009 at 7:15pm
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Quote: Originally posted by dave8858 on 28/5/2009
I'm sure there are still parts of Scotland christianity still hasn't reached :p
well actually we only got rid of the wind up phone last year


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28/5/2009 at 8:25pm
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Quote: Originally posted by neil and lena on 28/5/2009
Quote: Originally posted by dave8858 on 28/5/2009
I'm sure there are still parts of Scotland christianity still hasn't reached :p
well actually we only got rid of the wind up phone last year

On a more serious note did you read the article in the July edition of Practical Caravan mentioning the problem their reviewer had found with the flushing tank of the loo? Mine seems OK but the article did say Bailey were aware of several occurences of this pipe causing problems?




28/5/2009 at 9:08pm
 Location: Walsall
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Hi
I'm on my second Senator

first was a 2006 Indinna, the second a 2009 Wyoming.
Like you we caravan all the year round, have had no problems, and the onboard tank is a boon in the cold conditions. No freezing up and no need for bulky insulated jackets. Even through the cold spell at the new year the heating was left on No 2 24/7 and we were nice and warm. Blow system works well but we tend not to use it too much as we are always on battery.

New digital telly is great, there were complaints with the earlier supplied ones.

Steve


29/5/2009 at 8:54am
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Dont think the on board water tank would hold up to our xmas holiday in aviemore at minus 25 pipes all froze, the aqua roll froze solid (hubby forgot insulated jacket) took 3 days inside in front of the fire to thaw!!!!!!

we normally dont put water on board and use the facities on site. new year is rally mode so no blow air just good old gas we are further south and therefore its milder

Loved my pageant but think i would definately go for the senator.  when is the senator due for an overhall ie series 8



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