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17/9/2009 at 9:52pm
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After owning an old Bailey caravan and semi retirement from being self employed I decided to treat myself to a new caravan and chose another Bailey.
On the 20-4-07 I purchased a new Senator Virginia from a large recognised dealer and was pleased to know that I had piece of mind knowing the caravan was guarranteed against damp as long as I followed the service requirements. This was of particular piece of mind because of health problems that needed a damp free environment.
I followed the conditions of service and the second service  (Bailey approved) I was told that the caravan was showing 45% Damp and it was a problem with the back panel having a crack but I wasnt to worry as Bailey knew of the fault and would remedy the repair under guarrantee. I have noted from comments left on caravan blogs on the internet and it seems that this problem with the panels were not so common on double wheel base caravans and had I been aware of this I would have purchased a double wheel base Bailey.  I discussed the situation with the dealer who sold me the caravan. He informed me that the caravan should go back to Baileys for repair. Baileys cleared that the service centre were capable to do the repair and that the caravan would be completely dried out and a new panel fitted. After two months  I was told to collect the repaired caravan. This was welcome as we have not been able to go on our planned holiday due to the repair being done. I felt I needed confirmation that the caravan was now dry so the day after I collected the caravan I instructed an idependant damp survey and to my horror the caravan was still reading 45% damp and the engineer has confirmed that it woud take over 6 months to dry out fully and that the caravan should have been dried out fully before any repairs had been caried out (I have printed report) had this been the case I would have been happy but feel uncomfortable knowing that the damp has been sealed in instead of being dried out properly.
We have not been able to use our caravan this season. I have discussed this with the director of the company that sold me the caravan who informed me that he did not think he was responsible for the way we have been treated and that our case is with Bailey caravans. The caravan has been used three times since ownership.
Yesterday I had a phone call from the repairers who said that they were anoyed that I questioned their work was not done to a suitable standard an that they could not dry the caravan properly as Baileys only paid them for 12 Hours to do the job.
After this call I phoned Bailey only to be told that what the service centre said was correct. I am very anoyed that all this has happened and No one seems to know who is responsible. I have had to instruct a solicitor and will let everyone be aware of outcome and hope that other people are not treated the same as I have been.
If anyone can give any advice please Ime gratefull. I followed all the requirements reagarding servicing and still no peace of mind. 


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17/9/2009 at 11:15pm
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Hi Ian. As with many consumer questions which appear on here your contract is with the person who sold it to you - ie the dealer - not the manufacturer. If there was an intrinsic fault with your caravan the dealer has to put it right. And I mean right! It is then up to him to deal with the manufacturer, not you. If, as you say, there was an intrinsic fault with the van when you bought it take it back to him and just tell him to put it right - or give you a full refund. Basically, in this case, the guarantee is irrelevant. The manufactures were aware it was faulty and so were the dealers. The 12 hours Bailey agreed for the repair is not your concern. The dealer needs to negotiate this with Bailey. Also, you have been deprived of using your 'van for your holidays. Tell the dealer you intend to hire a 'van until yours is fixed and bill them for the cost.

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30/9/2009 at 10:38am
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Thanks Pete for you help!

I spoke to my solicitor yesturday and she is so annoyed the supplier hasnt had the decency to reply to her letters and she has given them plenty of notice.

She says that their actions hasnt help them much as a court will take their ignorance into concideration. I think she is trying to get to get a dealer to give us some calculations on like for like replacement.

I intend getting all the local news papers to the dealer and Baileys involved as soon as my solicitor says its ok as I dont want others to go through what I have.

I have spoken to the papers and they will do a story as long as I send all my paper work on. This I am happy to do.

When I next speak to her I will ask about hiring as this may be a way we can catch up on all the lost holidays.

Will keep you all informed!!!!



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30/9/2009 at 10:41am
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Dear All! To all on this and other caravn forums The answer is Yes I am in the Caravan Club.



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Good luck!

I really can't believe that the dealer was ignorant of such a basic point of law. Under the Sale of Goods Act, no matter how faulty the caravan is, and no matter how rubbish Bailey, the repairer, the caravan, God and the universe is, the responsibility for a good not being fit for purpose lies squarely firmly and totally at the door of the dealer.

It seems to me that they must know that and are attempting to muck you around. Trading standards have an excellent website here:

http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/advice/problemswithgoods.cfm

 

which should help with more info. Don't stand for it - they are in the wrong and they know they are!

 

Charlie



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30/9/2009 at 3:28pm
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Hi,sorry to read about the trouble you're having with your van/dealer/Bailey.Am following this with interest,as we have a 2007 Sprite Quattro with the same problem-cracked back panel,which was also only discovered at its last service,where it read over 35% damp in the bathroom.Our dealer put mastic over the crack,told us to use the van over the summer so it could dry,then take it back to be repaired.We're taking it in on Saturday.

After many previous dealings with our dealer since we've had the van (its been returned many times to have different faults repaired),we are half expecting trouble.They have been less than co-operative every time-I have not once lost my rag with them and I certainly don't think I've been a nuisance customer,just want a van thats usable.

I hope you get yours sorted soon,

Jenny



30/9/2009 at 5:15pm
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Why are these posts becoming the "norm" rather than once in a "blue moon". In the current financial climate you would have thought that dealers in particular would be keen to keep you happy so that you go back next time when you are thinking of changing your van or are they so busy at the moment they can afford to treat customers like dirt. My own dealer! has 2 branches which are fairly near to us, one is utterly useless and the staff are bordering on rude, the other appear much more helpful and sympathetic when things go wrong. They may not be able to do anything about your predicament but at least I am treated as a human being. Guess which one will get my future business.   

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