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Subject Topic: Broken Carver Heater Drain Plug Post Reply Post New Topic
21/9/2009 at 7:19pm
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Hello,

Can anybody advise me or help me please?  I've just bought my caravan and after using it for the first time attempted to remove the drain plug from my carver water heater and guess what it snapped completely off leave the thread on the inside!!  What can I do?  Has anybody got any idea's?  Is there anyway of fixing it from the outside (it seems really stuck)  or do I have to start dismantling from inside the caravan? 

 



21/9/2009 at 7:41pm
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If its the later plastic one:
I found a piece of flat steel like the end of a screw driver that would be the right size to fit in the hole if the broken bit was not there already. I warmed its end up on the gas burner so it was just warm enough to melt a slot in the offending plastic. [trial and error job, dont get it too hot]
I removed the piece of metal as soon as it made the slot and let it cool right down. I then inserted this in the slot and was able to apply enough torque to remove the plug.
Clearly there are safety issues here and you have got to be competent in doing this to follow my technique.


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21/9/2009 at 7:52pm
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That sounds like a good idea.  I will consider it but thought somehow I might be able just to simply make some sort of bung to fill up the hole where the end of the plug might be.  Can anybody suggest something that is the right size for the hole?  Again any ideas would be appreciated


21/9/2009 at 7:53pm
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That sounds like a good idea.  I will consider it but thought somehow I might be able just to simply make some sort of bung to fill up the hole where the end of the plug might be.  Can anybody suggest something that is the right size for the hole?  Again any ideas would be appreciated


21/9/2009 at 8:21pm
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To limp along till you can do a proper job why noy "whittle" a tapered wooden dowel with your boy scout knife.
OH no they are band so it will have to be a kitchen knife!!


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21/9/2009 at 9:24pm
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you can wrap a small hacksaw blade in tape and a rag and cut four slots in the bit left and then remove bits so as not to push any in. see garys page

http://www.arcsystems.biz/manuals/rcpf.pdf



Post last edited on 21/09/2009 21:30:27

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22/9/2009 at 12:07am
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DO NOT use a screw extractor !!!!!

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22/9/2009 at 1:17pm
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I had the exact same problem when I bought my 1988 Lunar van.  I ended up removing the plastic drain plug by drilling most of it out very carefully and then clearing the thread with a fine screwdriver.  Fortunately on the Carver Cascade 2 that's on my van, the plug is plastic and the thread it goes into is steel so if you take it carefully you should be ok. 

Getting a new drain plug was a different story though.  I couldn't get hold of a new drain plug the right size so had to improvise.  The thread is a standard 1/2" BSP thread so I popped into my local screwfix and bought one of these.

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/66876/Plumbing/Brassware/Comap-Brass-Flanged-Plug-Pack-of-2

With a little bit of PTFE tape wrapped around it, it works a treat



22/9/2009 at 9:13pm
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"Getting a new drain plug was a different story though.  I couldn't get hold of a new drain plug the right size so had to improvise.  The thread is a standard 1/2" BSP thread so I popped into my local screwfix and bought one of these."

 

Why not contact Gary at Arc Systems and get the proper one?

Mike

 



22/9/2009 at 9:57pm
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click on

144 Carver Cascade Drain Bung



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22/9/2009 at 10:11pm
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Hindsight is, as they say, an exact science!17

Being very new to caravanning I took advice from my local dealer as gospel, they said "you can't get the drain plugs for old Cascade 2 heaters any more".  I now know my local dealer to be no better than your average car dealer.  Hence getting out the thread gauges, finding out it was a 1/2" BSP thread and improvising.  Having googled pre-'87 Drain Plugs tonight, it seems I'm not the only one!  Look at this, I found on Ebay......

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/drain-plug-pre-1987-carver-cascade-2-caravan-water-851_W0QQitemZ200379789239QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Campervan_Caravan_Accessories?hash=item2ea790efb7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Cheeky or what! Selling a "drain plug" for £3.99 when you can get the exact same item from  Screwfix for 73p!17

 

 



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Not that one Michael, that's a later one

I have found a bright yellow plastic bung with a 1/2" BSP thread, it should be ideal for the early Cascade2 Carver made prior to June 1987.

Only had a couple of samples and ones out being tested in the field so to speak!

Down side is I'll have to buy 500!!!


22/9/2009 at 10:14pm
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Quote: Originally posted by michael on 22/9/2009

click on

144 Carver Cascade Drain Bung


 

 

 

That's OK if you have a post '87 metric threaded drain hole but if you have the pre'87 version you need one with a 1/2" BSP thread. 

Incidentally, I have brand new one of the above drain plugs free to a good home if anyone wants one!17



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Hi,

If you still have a drain plug for a Carver heater, I would gladly take one off your hands. If you have, please reply and I'll send you a stamped addressed envelope.

Cheers

Eric


10/10/2009 at 10:24pm
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We've got loads of 1/2" BSP plugs at work. I gave the chap a couple when we sold our old caravan. If anyone is totally stuck drop me an email.


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Quote: Originally posted by JTQU on 21/9/2009
To limp along till you can do a proper job why noy "whittle" a tapered wooden dowel with your boy scout knife.
OH no they are band so it will have to be a kitchen knife!!

Not quite! Victorinox offer a Duke of Edinburgh's Award Pocket Tool which, having a round-ended blade less than 3in long and folding into the handle, is (unless used as an offensive weapon) condsidered legal.



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