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05/10/2009 at 7:15pm
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Hi all thinking of buying a new van from show!! . What i would like to know is how much do u pay on the day.Is it a small deposit and pay the rest when i get the van.As well we know which vans we like and can we haggle them down.Any tips all welcome .........jeza


06/10/2009 at 2:34am
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If you're trading in, it's never a done deal until they have seen your old van.  We bought from the show once and, from what i can remember we paid a deposit and then settled the rest when we went to collect.

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06/10/2009 at 8:07am
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We paid a small credit card deposit. We specifically used a credit card for the much greater legal protection it offers not only on the security of that deposit but also for protection further down the line once we had the van.
In these difficult times with a real possibility of "here today gone tomorrow" its unwise to use cash, cheque or many debit cards.


06/10/2009 at 9:07am
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Bear in mind where the dealer is situated, they could be at the other end of the country! Then you have to go and collectit. Also, what happens if you need warranty work? Is there a dealer nearby who will do it?

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06/10/2009 at 10:08am
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We paid about £500 by debit card, balance on the day we collected it.


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06/10/2009 at 12:01pm
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I've bought at shows 3 times always with trade in and never been asked for a deposit.  As said above it's never really a done deal untill they've seen the trade-in.  If you do pay a deposit - use a credit card.


06/10/2009 at 12:49pm
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Hi

We bought once at show paid a small deposit with credit card and paid rest when we went to collect as someone says i wouldn't pay a large deposit or pay by debit card just incase compant aint there by time you get the van.

Remeber to try and get a discount we bought ours 1/2 before show ended and managed to get a few extras thrown in that he wouldnt do day before.

Gerry



06/10/2009 at 8:31pm
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many thanks for all your replies


06/10/2009 at 8:43pm
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Use yoor credit card for consumer protection - I think you need to pay over£100 for the rules to apply.

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08/10/2009 at 1:00am
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If you know what van you want, it may be worth going to a dealer before the show, for a price.  You've then go something to bargain with when they start talking prices.  It may also be worth telling your local dealer that you intend to go to the show for a bargain, and could he match it/ better it.  Also consider that it is more convenient to buy local, especially if the van has to go in for warranty work etc.

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08/10/2009 at 10:10am
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As a rule, shows are not the place to "buy" anything. The atmosphere is entirely false, bright lights, warm, cosy. Much better to see what you are buying in it's natural habiitat on a cold wet day in west Yorkshire.

It's very easy to fall into the euphoria of "must buy now". Remember, the salesman is seeing maybe 20 people an hr , at the end of the show, there will be any number of people who have "ordered " at the show, and will give back word a week later. This is from a salesman.

If you need a van now, much better to follow the advice of David above, go to the show, see what you want to see, and then find a local dealer who isn't at the show, and do your dealing. You will be on a level playground, they are not paying out a fortune to be at Bghm, and will be happy to get their orders in before the dust settles from the show. 

AJ



08/10/2009 at 7:13pm
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Quote: Originally posted by ayjay on 08/10/2009

As a rule, shows are not the place to "buy" anything. The atmosphere is entirely false, bright lights, warm, cosy. Much better to see what you are buying in it's natural habiitat on a cold wet day in west Yorkshire.

It's very easy to fall into the euphoria of "must buy now". Remember, the salesman is seeing maybe 20 people an hr , at the end of the show, there will be any number of people who have "ordered " at the show, and will give back word a week later. This is from a salesman.

If you need a van now, much better to follow the advice of David above, go to the show, see what you want to see, and then find a local dealer who isn't at the show, and do your dealing. You will be on a level playground, they are not paying out a fortune to be at Bghm, and will be happy to get their orders in before the dust settles from the show. 

AJ


Sorry - can't agree.  SO long as you know what you want and have a budget to stick to then there are deals to be had at the shows that are not available elsewhere as they are sponsored by the manufacturers.  On my latest van ( now approaching 5 years old) the deal at the show was £2000 better than the best elsewhere immediately before the show.  I shall be there on Thursday and if the deal is right I'll sign on the dotted line and I won't be changing my mind any time soon after.


08/10/2009 at 8:29pm
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I prefer to buy from a local dealer, one I can reach with ease should I need warranty work or servicing carried out. A neighbour of ours bought a new carvan from a dealer about 35 miles away, he has to leave it there for a week to have it serviced. It ties up two of his saturdays to take & collect it. We're so very different, our dealer is 5 minutes walk away, I can drop our van in during my lunch break & collect it on my way home. So much easier.

If you're intending buying at the NEC, I'd advise finding out how much a local dealer would quote you for a chosen caravan then go to the NEC & see what saving if any there is to be made.

There is a long thread on here where a member left a £500 deposit with a "friendly" dealer at last years show. The member lost their money.

It'll be interesting to follow this thread & see how you get on at the show, I hope you enjoy it.

BB



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09/10/2009 at 9:49am
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To jaiash

Good on ya. -----The key phrase is "As a rule",  ie If you are suited, do it, but for many, a show is a big temptation, and it takes a strong will to resist.

When you think that the big stands at Bmghm cost between £500,000 to £1 m pounds for space, manning, expenses of staff etc.and an enormous amount of hassle for the company, It's a bit hard to see why suppliers would then be "giving the stuff away"

A show is a glorious way to see what you want, and to compare without driving miles, and a nice day out. Any good rep will know his product and the opposition, so talk to the rep openly, and tell them what you are looking for, you may learn something you never thought about.. After the doors close, they all talk to each other anyway.

At the moment there seems to be a shortage of 2 nd hand vans for new entry caravanners due to the credit crunch etc., which would suggest anyone prepared to invest in a higher spec model new, should be looking for a good deal.

My technique when buying is to decide precisely what I want, and telephone round all the suppliers in an area.  No debate, best price required. That works for me.

AJ



09/10/2009 at 12:09pm
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Quote: Originally posted by ayjay on 09/10/2009

My technique when buying is to decide precisely what I want, and telephone round all the suppliers in an area.  No debate, best price required. That works for me.

AJ


Agree entirely, but after doing all that, it would still be worth going to a show to see if they can better the price.  If they can (and pick-up is within reasonable distance) then go for it.  If not, walk away and go back to the dealer who can provide the better deal.

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09/10/2009 at 3:15pm
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from what we`ve seen, most of our local dealers have a presence down at the NEC.it would be interesting to see if they offered the same deal as at the show a week later on a wet day in Huddersfield.....not that we are buying a  brand new van...ever



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