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23/10/2009 at 4:57pm
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Has anyone any experience of a product I saw at N E C last week, called a Sunpulse. It attatches to your battery and by sending a magnetic pulse to the ecu, is supposed to save fuel, and increase power. It retails at £149, but show offer was £99. Has any one used it or heard of any one who has. Comments good or bad would be much appreciated. Thanks

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Sounds like its £99 too expensive even at show prices!

With the worlds car manufacturers spending billions on development of more fuel efficient vehicles, the likelihood of such a device being the solution to more power and efficiency is less than me winning the lottery five weeks on the bounce.

Cue the `I`ve bought one and it`s brilliant (well not really but I don`t wish to be seen as a numpty)` brigade!


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23/10/2009 at 5:09pm
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(**COUGH**) Snakeoil! (**COUGH**)

Really, nothing you can attach to your engine involving magnets, electronics, magic beans or fairy wishes is going to save you fuel unless you completely remap the ECU, and that will have further, less desirable effects on the engine such as reduced power. And £149?!? I know fools and their money are soon parted, but at that price they are parted even sooner than usual.



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23/10/2009 at 5:23pm
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A gentle foot on the accelarator will save you more than any device such as the above and you won't have to pay 99 quid for it.


23/10/2009 at 5:58pm
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waste of money by the sound of it.try an ecu remap.my mate has a passat and reckons it has improved power and mpg.is yours a diesel ?


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23/10/2009 at 6:27pm
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There is only one way to save fuel....


GENTLE RIGHT FOOT


23/10/2009 at 6:27pm
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There is also a device that reputes to save fuel by adding a sort of water device that is meant to produce (is it) 'browns gas' or some such similar name.  (Google: Run your car on water).  They say it is not new technology, but technology that oil companies would rather not get to well known, for economic reasons.  Now I am sceptical, but there may be those out there who know better than I.  I would be interested to hear unbiased comments from those who had had experience of such a device.  Sound the same sort of scam to me, but I am rather hoping someone will prove me wrong. 17

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23/10/2009 at 7:13pm
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Apparently, the terrific American TV show Mythbusters tested the Brown's Gas device and found that while it did produce gas it was such a small amount that it would be of no help. However, that doesn't mean it couldn't work (at least a little better than they managed with bodged together kit and a design downloaded off the web).

But as with all these "magic" devises the first thing they have to do is create a big enough saving to counteract the extra weight they'll add to the vehicle.

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23/10/2009 at 8:00pm
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OH S**T !!!!!!!!!. I am ashamed to admit this, but I actually bought one of these ( yes I hear you all saying "one born every minute"). I have put this thread on Sorento owners forum and evrey one seems to think the same. I am a PRAT.I have been in touch with the Sunpulse people today and requested a refund. The chap was very nice, and said he would give me my money back, so I have sent it back.Will let you know how I get on . Watch this space.It did come with a money back guarentee.

I suppose one learns by ones mistakes



23/10/2009 at 8:20pm
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Found this on the net

Magnetic Fuel Savers

Clamp these incredibly expensive magnets on your fuel line and they'll either ionize, align, polarize, depolarize, or in some other way alter the fuel that flows into your engine so that it will burn better, faster, more efficiently.

By doing this, you'll get an increase in fuel economy that is anywhere from 15%-30% they tell us.

Well there is absolutely *zero* reputable scientific evidence to support these claims and in fact many of those promoting these bogus devices have been prosecuted for fraud. 

If they worked, there wouldn't be a four million dollar fine involved, would there?

These bogus magnetic fuel savers are still being sold under a number of different names however. RED Magnetic Hypergauss, Fuel Optimiser, Magnatronic. FuelEX... they're all just a scam. Avoid, avoid avoid.

Fuel Additives

Just pop a little pill in your fuel tank and save, save, save on gas bills.

Yes, it sounds too good to be true doesn't it? Well you guessed it -- it is.

These miracle fuel conditioning pills have been tested and roundly condemned as not only a waste of money but also potentially damaging to your car's fuel system.

Just ask yourself, if fuel could be improved by such a simple process, don't you think that one of the major (or minor) fuel companies would be seeking to steal an edge on their competition by including these "magic" ingredients themselves?

These fuel conditioning tablets go by too many brand-names to list but includes: K-Fuel Saver, BIOIL, Cyber Sizzle, etc.

Sorry, it's another case of avoid, avoid avoid.

Intake turbulators

By placing a magically shaped piece of metal in the intake system of your car's engine, you can use the powerful force of a tornado to improve your fuel mileage.

Sorry but wrong again.

These devices simply create an extra choking effect in your vehicle's air intake system and that's been proven to actually *reduce* fuel efficiency, sometimes quite dramatically.

The fact is that the mix of air and fuel entering your car's engine is already extremely turbulent by the time it is ignited. Trying to add extra turbulence achieves absolutely nothing except making it harder for your engine to breathe.

And yes, scientific tests have proven that they simply don't work.

These intake turbulators are marketed under many names but perhaps the most well-known (and reviled) is the Tornado.

More stuff to avoid!

Tin Catalysts

Attach this little device between your fuel line and your carburetor or injector system and it'll save you money. It works by virtue of the catalytic effects of tin on the combustion process.

But wait, didn't they use tin as a combustion improver in WW2? Surely that means it must work -- right?

Well no, I'm sorry -- more snake oil here.

Yes, they did use tin to improve the octane rating of fuels back in WW2 (and later we used lead too) but today's fuels are already much higher octane and today's engines are much different to those old ones.

You'll also find that the tiny amount of tin that is released into the fuel system by these fuel catalyzers is several orders of magnitude less than would be required to have any discernable effect. Yes, more BS I'm afraid.

One of the best known of these catalyst systems is FuelStar.

I'm sorry, but unless you're running 80-octane fuel in a car with an engine out of a Spitfire, you won't be getting your money's worth out of these devices.

"But I had a fuel saver fitted and it works"

I've investigated the strange situation where otherwise credible people claim to have seen a measurable improvement in fuel economy when one of the fuel-saver scams has been installed in their vehicle. How can that be?

Well it's amazing how much fuel you can save by doing a few simple things:

  • Properly inflate (or even over-inflate) your tires
  • Replace your air-cleaner at regular intervals
  • Make sure your engine is in a good state of tune
  • Make sure your wheels are properly aligned.

There are a growing number of reports which indicate that many of those companies installing fuel-savers for customers are deliberately overinflating the tires of those vehicles and performing some other very basic servicing that can in itself result in a 10% or more improvement in fuel efficiency.

Of course the customer then believes that this improvement is down to the miracle new fuel-saver they've spent so much money on.

Yes, they've been very skillfully duped indeed.

However, the vast majority of people making these claims are simply trying to separate you from your money .
Some people have always lied in order to earn money and clearly, these scammers feel it is fair to continue the practice.



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IF it works there will be a price to pay probably in engine life. You have got to save a lot of fuel to cover the £99 let alone £149

Back off the gas, short change the gears, close the windows, air con off ,take off the racks, empty the junk out, tyres at correct pressure, regular servicing, plan ahead. You will increase MPG by 10 mpg and reduce wear & tear on everything . It's a bit boring though.

(I am assuming you are not dragging the van around of course)



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24/10/2009 at 1:23am
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Careful not to leave the air-con off all the time, otherwise
a) your windows will mist up

b) your air-con will break down. It needs to be run regularly to keep the system working correctly.

Many modern cars don't include air-con as a luxury, it's a vital part of the ventilation system. My air con broke down in the summer, and I lasted about a fortnight before having to pay big money to get it fixed.

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24/10/2009 at 12:16pm
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We were in the workshop one day a few years ago when a chap came in trying to tell us his magentic product would save us a fortune in fuel if we clipped it to the fuel ine of the lorries. We didn't bother with it.

I'm probably wrong here but as far as I'm concerned, considerate driving of a vehicle purchased because it's capable of the job it's expected to do & use of the cruise control whenever possible will save more fuel that anything. Leaving engines ticking over in standing traffic for example, uses lots of fuel.

Making certain your tyre pressure are right & your steering is tracking correctly along with having the fuel & air filters are changed regularly will make a difference too. Long service intervals on modern day engines don't do these filters any favours. My car has 18 month service intervals but IMO that's too long for them & I have the oil out & filters done every 6 months or so.

The device you saw at the  might be good but I wouldn't want it. How do you know it's saving you fuel? Any saving ould simply be down to your driving or the workload on the vehicle at the time.

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24/10/2009 at 6:46pm
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 Just to add a bit more to the fuel saving thread, My neighbour runs a 2.0L puegot and mixes vegetable oil and diesel 50/50 ( i have seen him putting it in his tank ) and says hes halved his costs and he's not had any modifications done to his engine , I dont think I'd try it on our new car but his is 10 yrs old. atb Bill

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If any of these so called economy devices improved mpg do you not think the car manufacturer`s would have been fitting them as standard to claim high mpg in their sale`s ads


24/10/2009 at 9:38pm
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Quote: Originally posted by bill + kay w on 24/10/2009
 Just to add a bit more to the fuel saving thread, My neighbour runs a 2.0L puegot and mixes vegetable oil and diesel 50/50 ( i have seen him putting it in his tank ) and says hes halved his costs and he's not had any modifications done to his engine , I dont think I'd try it on our new car but his is 10 yrs old. atb Bill
cant see how because veg oil isnt much cheaper than diesel from what ive seen. a few years ago when it was half the price it was a popular choice of fuel but cant see any point now.



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