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Quote: Originally posted by bill + kay w on 24/10/2009

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 Just to add a bit more to the fuel saving thread, My neighbour runs a 2.0L puegot and mixes vegetable oil and diesel 50/50 ( i have seen him putting it in his tank ) and says hes halved his costs and he's not had any modifications done to his engine , I dont think I'd try it on our new car but his is 10 yrs old. atb Bill

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Quote: Originally posted by D S B on 23/10/2009

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They say it is not new technology, but technology that oil companies would rather not get to well known, for economic reasons.  Now I am sceptical, but there may be those out there who know better than I..

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Personally I think what D S B says above could possibly answer many questions / points raised on this thread. Perhaps this may even be the reason (or one of them) why vehicle manafacturers are not fitting such devices as standard etc.? There is after all a symbiotic relationship between car manafacturers & oil companies.

Call me sceptical/suspicous too - I am. However not only am I sceptical of devices which claim to save money, I am also sceptical about what we are not being told about as regards alternatives to massive fossil fuel consumption.

I wonder just who has discredited this particular magnetic device ?  All sorts of companies & departments do of course have scientists in their employ, so it is always worth wondering just who is doing the testing & subsequent reporting of results.

Perhaps it's still worth keeping an open mind on this one ?

Quote: Originally posted by Viggo on 25/10/2009

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Vehicle manufacturers are spending billions every year developing alternatives to fossil fuel-powered cars, and they are beginning to appear on the forecourts of dealers.

It's always a good idea to keep an open mind, Gypsydoll, as long as it's not so open that your brains fall out.

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I imagine the manafacturers are spending a fair bit trying to find viable alternatives Viggo, as for a long time we've been aware that oil will run out.

However in the meantime we are all still mainly using petrol & diesel fuelled vehicles, which I imagine the oil companies & dependant industries are not too unhappy about. Many of those presently making a lot of money out of oil based fuels are I imagine not too keen on people consuming less of them, whatever they might say to the contrary.

An open mind is cabable of allowing all information in, and recognising too that opinions & theories which differ from our own ones may actually have something in them.

Post last edited on 25/10/2009 14:10:17

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As a former motor mechanic, I have come across a number of miracle fuel savers and of them all only one works.

The one that works is a simple egg placed under the throttle pedal. If you push the throttle right down you break the egg and it stops working.

This doesn't alter the engine in any way, just the way you drive it.

Top Gear took a small hatchback around their track a year or so ago (iirc it was a Toyota Yaris but could be wrong, something of that sort of size anyway) They told the driver to lap the track as fast as he could. They then sent a BMW M3 around the track to follow the small hatchback and compared the fuel consumption. The BMW had used less fuel.

This was by virtue of the fact the hatchback had been driven to the max and the BMW had hardly worked up a sweat.

With regard to halving the fuel bill by using vegetable oil in a Peugeot diesel engine, I would not be surprised at all. I used to have a 205 diesel and run that on cooking oil (later added 10% diesel to avoid the pump seals leaking) and found that at that time, not only was vegetable oil less than half the price of diesel (around 39p a litre compared to around 90p a litre at the time for diesel) but on vegetable oil I was getting in exces of 70 mpg whereas diesel wis only getting a little over 50 mpg.

Of course anyone using vegetable oil as diesel should be advising HM Customs and Excise and paying the duty on it.

Of course anyone using vegetable oil as diesel should be advising HM Customs and Excise and paying the duty

lol

Quote: Originally posted by jeepster on 25/10/2009

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I have some special words that I say to my engine that help me save ££££££s in fuel bills!!!

Send only £50 and your bank account details to the email address below and I will tell you the secret words!
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Quote: Originally posted by LegsDownKettleOn on 25/10/2009

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Of course anyone using vegetable oil as diesel should be advising HM Customs and Excise and paying the duty on it.

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Some years ago, there was a product called the H2O Bomb; it supposedly improved your mpg by metering minute droplets of water into the combustion chamber.  No doubt a lot were sold, but it eventually it dropped out of the ad mags.

I don't think any of these things actually work, because all vehicle manufacturers aim for the best mpg that their vehicles can achieve; for the advertising edge, if nothing else.

Any claims by purchasers that some improvement has been obtained is more likely down to a change in driving habits when trying out their new toy; getting the same effects that would have been achieved without the device.

Bertie.