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22/1/2010 at 1:36pm
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  Has anyone heard anything about this? Apparently the latest electrical regs specify that electrical installations should be examined periodically, in the case of touring vans at most every three years. The test takes up to 4, yes 4, hours at a cost of around £120.and is in addition to the normal annual service. This is being recommended by the NCC and dealers technicians are already being trained up for the new test.There is a strong suggestion that site owners will want to see a valid certificate before allowing you an EHU.

  I seem to remember this topic coming up some time ago on here, but can't find it now, but a contributer on another forum has stated that he has had this training and the CC will be implementing this policy in the not too distant future.          

   So is there anyone "in the know"on here able to clarify the position please?

     Pete.



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22/1/2010 at 1:49pm
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Oh dear. Not another Nanny state directive!

How many people have been electrocuted after plugging in their electric on a site. If that is the case then the site will have to give the caravanner a certificate to say that their installation if fit for purpose.

Can't see this working if it's true. Another urban myth????

 

 



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22/1/2010 at 2:05pm
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If this is the case I'm so glad I hardly bother with EHU they'll be checking your electricity yearly at your homes next!!!!!


22/1/2010 at 2:25pm
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sounts like utter rot to me, if the site's leccy is up to scratch then any problem with your van will trip the post. Ditto any probs will trip your own RCB and we all test the RCB when plugging in??? DON'T WE????

 



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22/1/2010 at 2:50pm
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Nothing on the NCC website, does'nt sound very likely wouldnt take 4 hours to check a caravans electrics and it would take years to check all the caravans on the road sounds like the same alarmist rubbish that MOT for caravans was.


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22/1/2010 at 3:12pm
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Yep! Thought I was right. Urban myth. Why don't people check their facts with back info before they post.

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22/1/2010 at 4:51pm
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Quote: Originally posted by johnks on 22/1/2010
Yep! Thought I was right. Urban myth. Why don't people check their facts with back info before they post.

      If you read my original post that is exactly what I was asking, whether anybody in the industry knew anything. How else are we expected to "check our facts"?

 As I said the poster on the other forum said he had been on the training course and that is why I asked if anyone in the industry knew anything. As for checking before posting I also said I had seen the topic on this forum in the past but couldn't now find it.

          Pete.

    



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22/1/2010 at 5:06pm
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Hi Pete, You were quite right to post a query on here and ask for others opinions.

Anyone who is worried by anything they hear should post asking for opinions.

When I stop asking, I will be dead.

I would hazard a guess that there are quite a few who are not around today who would still have been here, had they asked.



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22/1/2010 at 5:07pm
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Nothing on the NICEIC web site about caravan testing as such, but there is a new PIR cert for testing, sounds like a wind up to me.

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22/1/2010 at 5:47pm
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   Possibly a wind-up, I don't know,      that's why I posted.                                 

   I don't know if I am allowed to mention the other forum but its a caravan mag that is quite practical . There is a link on there to a NCC technical bulletin TB-2009-17 about this test. Plus the "information" that I have already mentioned. You can view it without joining the forum.

    Pete.



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22/1/2010 at 6:15pm
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On another site they are saying CC will request to see PIR certs from April, Well im a CC member got 2 weeks booked in August no mention when booked so if I turn up and need PIR before i can use EHU I wont be happy.

But i think its scare mongering otherwise would be a lot more advertising of the fact etc all dealers etc would be advertising having it done etc.

Just my views



22/1/2010 at 6:41pm
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It may be genuine after all.

See here.

However, 4 hours for testing a touring caravan? Never.


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installations should be examined periodically,
With the emphasis on the word should ,not must.
Domestic premises should be tested every 10 years,I wonder how many are!
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22/1/2010 at 7:17pm
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 So it looks like its not a wind up the nanny state strikes again! honestly health and

safety rules have gone mad in this country,I suppose we will have to have a toolbox talk from the Warden before hooking up next and one for emptying the loo.I look forward to that one? What next..



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22/1/2010 at 7:33pm
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Odd that theres nothing on the CC website about this as it looks like it's iminent and they will have to inform everyone whos booked after April that they need this so called 'Certificate' to stay on thier sites, especially as the NCC and the Caravan Club operate 'hand in glove'.



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is this the 1st step towards a mandatory MOT for caravans with H&S lunacy in this country it could be, whatever happened to being responsible for your own outfit. I know as part of my pre-trip checks the cable gets checked, the sockets and trip are checked, the 12v switches are checked. Outside and underneath the tyres are checked, the breakaway cable is checked, hitch, handbrake are checked.

am i too pedantic or do i apply common sense???



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