I have just visited Discover in Darlington to view the new Alu-tec Bailey Pegasus. I unfortunately found this van range to be very cheap and flimsy. The catches to cupboards are cheap folded plastic units that will quickly become defective, as the showroom ones had!! I viewed 7 Pegasus vans and found the same flimsy wood and plastic catches defective or jammed? The quality is absolutely rubbish. The van may well remain leak free but you will be forever returning it to the dealer for repairs under warranty. This range of vans is cheap and nasty with a huge price tag. Why they are expensive I really could'nt see today, rubbish.
I went into a Swift leisure van after the Pegasus and couldnt beleive the vast increase in build and quality. It was immediately obvious. Thicker cabinets. Metal handles and catches. Much more van for your money.
Yeah, totally agree about those "catches". Bailey is confident they are up to the job, but they just feel bodged. But it's over the top to dismiss the entire caravan as "cheap and nasty" ... and the price is very competitive. It would be interesting to tour caravans with you - I've never been able to see why Swifts are so much more expensive than Baileys. We could compare notes!
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I think you'll find that the 'catches' are also fitted to other maunfacturers vans too, saw plenty of them atthe NEC in October. If someone gave me a Swift - I'd sell it, had one once - never again heavy, overpriced and overhyped.
Cupboard catches are generally not good in vans I have found - problems with them in Swift, Coachman and Eldiss, fortunatley replacements were cheap and not something I bothered claiming on a warranty.
Half the locker doors in my van don't have catches - they are held shut by the spring on the hinges. It works fine. The other half have those push button catches that go flush to the surface of the door, and are not only very secure but also look good.
Bailey has now changed to flat-fronted locker doors (made in Italy) which are held shut by a bit of stressed plastic that appears to be an off-cut of a length of trim edging, and which the user has to bend slightly with their finger tips in order to open the door. The result is that the cupboards are a large expanse of wood with no other features - no catch, no handle, no nothing. It looks like an aircraft locker, only in wood. I'm not keen.
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Half the locker doors in my van don't have catches - they are held shut by the spring on the hinges. It works fine. The other half have those push button catches that go flush to the surface of the door, and are not only very secure but also look good.
Bailey has now changed to flat-fronted locker doors (made in Italy) which are held shut by a bit of stressed plastic that appears to be an off-cut of a length of trim edging, and which the user has to bend slightly with their finger tips in order to open the door. The result is that the cupboards are a large expanse of wood with no other features - no catch, no handle, no nothing. It looks like an aircraft locker, only in wood. I'm not keen.
but oh so much room in them unlike some vans we`ve seen that you cant even stand a box of cereal in without folding the top over. i dont think the pegasus is a large expanse of wood as the bottom section is totally different to the rest so not as bland.the olympus however doesnt have this contrast and does look rather bland
Went to Pionneer caravans at Peterbrough on Sunday to look at new Pegasus. Build is rubbish one van you could put your fingers behind the splash back in the kitchen not been stuck down properly its a very thin bit of plastic. Next van the rock and roll bed had missing and broken slats. The bathrooms looked like sombody forgot to decorate them the walls look like grey primer. Cupboard catchs alread damaged. And what with the headlights either side of the front loackers. Had anyone p.d.i. thes vans the amount that they cost they sould be built better. Went in other Baileys and they were of a much higher standard methinks that the Pegasus has been chucked together and then they will
tell everyone about the new way of building and they will buy one nevermind that they have not been finished off correctly.
To be fair to Baileys we also look at the Swift vans aswell one had a damaged shower door and one had the handles hanging off the drawer unit at the front dont think these had been p.d.i. either.
these were all new vans
The only van that look well made a an Taberth and a Adria. These were 2nd hand vans/
What is our caravan industry coming too when we turn out vans like these no wonder that many people are looking to european vans.
I dont think the problems with the pegasus to going to be will it leak but will ihe inside fall to bits after 18 month.
Quote: Originally posted by John Stewart on 08/2/2010
I don't understand this mentality of people starting threads criticising a certain make of caravan. If you don't like it, fine, don't buy it.
I looked at several different makes of caravans before buying mine and none are perfect. I didn't feel the need to start threads sl*gging them off.
Its starting to get boring........
Thats because you are not allowed to criticis Baileys vans they must not every have anything said against them because if you do somone will criticis you and my point has just been proved. We are allowed to make comments about cars and other items we buy why not about caravans if its made poor we should say so. we went to look and did not like what we saw this is not sl*gging off it is our opion
no i do agree with peoples note on quality issues how are manufactures going to improve unless bad idears are ironed out .I am sure the people making them need to know what people think they are not cheap!
my caravan is small and not without its faults but i do not mind this as improvements can be made in the future for finding them!The spitfire was not good when it first was made but look at the end product!
I don't think it's sl*gging off either. This isn't a forum to say only positive things, it's a forum of being truthful, and as said your honest opinion, then others can decide for themselves, at least it makes you aware even if it's for comparison.
I DO hope you bought a Swift, and fully enjoy its wobbly timber construction for its full 10 yr life. Personally I cannot understand the logic of buying century old building technology, using modern fast grown timber, and Eco-friendly preservatives.
So its a clear choice: replace awning trims and seals whenever you detect moisture ingress, and hope you get it before the rot starts, or replace an internal plastic catch every now and then...give me a second to think about it...
But hey, each to his own!
Strax, warm in his Pegasus in Scotland for the skiing!