Hi, with all the negitive vibes out there on the pegasus & with a few of my own . who is completely happy with their pegasus , would like to hear some positive ones to give us some confidence in our choice of purchase, I am getting paranoid about all the faults being found on the vans.
HOPE THERE IS SOME SMILEY FACES FOR THE PEGASUS AND IT IS NOT ALL REGRET AND FRUSTRATION
I'm sure there is though I'd never buy a Bailey myself - too many of them about for a start!
Really it is not entirely surprising that there are problems, frankly I'd never buy a van in it's first year of production esp when it involves re-tooling the factory and a whole new technique. Let other people iron out the gremlins...
However, I think the real issue is how problems are dealt with as they arise. If promptly and with courtesy that is one thing, ducking and diving is another.
But despite my view of Bailey they ain't a successful enterprise for nowt, stack 'em high, sell them cheap and with plenty of kit is a model that works for many people and I'm sure there are more happy punters than angry ones out there.
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I think you get what you pay for. Bailey seem to be the 'Ford' of the caravan world. As you say Le Phantom there are loads of them about which means they are doing something right. Ok ok so its not a Rolls Royce but if thats what you seek get out your cheque book and prepare to spend oodles more dosh. There are also bound to be teething troubles in what is a ground breaking move on Baileys' part - if no eggs got broken omelettes wouldn't exist!
I just reckon they pitched the Pegasus wrong as its a replacement for the Senator which was the top of the traditional range. Given that its bound to be more expensive to make and costs have to be covered the Pegasus does not compare favourably with the Senator it replaced in terms of standard equipment yet costs just as much.
Worse still from a selfish point of view they have chosen to put the replacement for the Pageant on a narrow chassis and as its got to have less bells and whistles than the Peguasus since that is the new Bailey flagship, it will cost as much as the old Pageant but will to be less well equipped and smaller to boot.
The Pegasus actually compares well with the series 7 Pageant which I reckon was the test bed for the new layouts and body sizes of the peggy. Either that means they threw all the extra goodies in the Pageant S7, or it means in order to keep the Pegasus competetively priced and as lightweight as possible it had to have a reduced spec compared to the old Senator.
Whatever, you pay your money and take your choice judging by the number of peggys you see around it would seem there are plenty willing to give it a try and I don't suppose it will be too long before Swift & co follow suit and produce an Alu-Tech body. For my part we bought a S7 Pageant fully aware that the new range was about to be launched simply because we found the layout we liked and went for it.
As to whether the peggy is a worthy investment imho if you plan to change your van every couple of years or so probably not. If you do a lot of winter caravanning then maybe. If you like the damn thing and are happy with what it offers then of course its worth it.
We love out peggy. Had a test last weekend and it is great. The heating is fantastic, infact got to hot and turned it off! I love the finish and didn't like the senator. We were going for a pageant because we didn't like the finish in the senator, then saw the peggy and were smitten.
Mind you we are very new to caravaning and even thougth I appriciate the that there are better quality models around I would not want to pay the price they are asking.
I don't see anything wrong with having a Bailey caravan, at least they only own Bailey whereas a lot of the other makes still out there are owned by a couple of big companies. I don't see much to harp on about having some of those names on the drive, from what we've seen in some of them, the Bailey is far superior. It's all down to personal choice & dealer service at the end of the day. We get brilliant service from our dealer & that's what matters in my book.
There must be some very happy Pegasus owners out there, I see them going up the M5 & M4 motorways heading out to the dealers by the lorry load. Our local dealer is selling them like hot cakes as he is the new Olympus, we've just walked past the place with our dog & there's a new Olympus put out for collection by its new owner tomorrow. That's built using the same process as the Pegasus so I hope we don't see lists of faults found on that.
As for us, we're more than happy with the Series 7 Provence & we're sorry to see they've replaced Pageant with the narrow body Olympus. We don't change ours often so thankfully it'll last us a while.
4 Hours and not much support for the Pegasus. There must be some out there. If not and Bailey read this Board what do they have to say?
Remember a couple of months back and every caravan magazine seemed like a Bailey block advertisement feature?
Phil
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Hello to everybody in caravan land.Our family of 6 have resently crossed over from 5 years of camping and went straight in for a pegasus 546. My wallet is now empty but are we happy? Genuraly yes .Two trips down the line and what great fun it is.However there are a few trim issues which i did expect,the biggest being the shower valve leaking for 2 hours and flooding under all the carpets.We thought we had connected the toilet up wrong. But no, we got that bit right! We were in Brecon in Febuary and the heating was excellent.My good lady wife,1,3,6 and 9 year old children are all very happy.Looking forward to our 4 week tour of europe this summer.Let the good times begin.
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4 Hours and not much support for the Pegasus. There must be some out there. If not and Bailey read this Board what do they have to say?
Remember a couple of months back and every caravan magazine seemed like a Bailey block advertisement feature?
Phil
Phil, I beg to differ about the lack of support, to my eyes all the Peggy owners who have replied have replied either favourably or with smiley faces.
As I have stated elsewhere, the lack of traditional look will not be to everyone's taste, but should Bailey not be applauded for moving the game on?
If everyone just built the same, then we would still have gas lights and foot water pumps (cold only of course).
Granted I should be biased as I have just bought one, but to my eyes the cleaner look makes the van much airier and makes a single axle fixed bed van look more spacious. Rival vans achieve this effect by putting smaller overhead lockers in. We do not travel light so the Bailey setup suits us best.
ours is rubbish (and thats being polite) with far more problems than any other van we`ve ever owned.
Bailey QC and dealer PDI is naff at best
Having said that we agree with Zafiral.Bailey are streets ahead with their genorous locker and cupboard space.You go in some vans with same layout and even with 2 of us we would struggle to get our gear in.Some van top lockers are like letter boxes whereas Pegasus ones are cavernous. (more room to collect all the water ? )
If only they`d put them together properly and pay more attention to detail they`d have a real winner with their good layouts,lightweight,kit levels and price
To each his own. Buy what you want is the best rule.
I don't know much about buying caravans, although I have been at it for a long time. We tend to keep a caravan for ten years or more.
What I can say, from the point of view of buying cars - which I have done a lot of - I would never have a new model that didn't have at least 12 months behind it. To put it another way, any new model is just not on my list for the first year.
They need time to get rid of all the teething troubles and carry out some minor redesigns, and I prefer that the initial experiment is not carried out at my expense.
I understand that a new model can be quite exciting, but I think I'll pass.
"biggest being the shower valve leaking for 2 hours and flooding under all the carpets.We thought we had connected the toilet up wrong"
In the event that the leak was not your fault, it might be worth raising it with the dealer just to put it on the record and then keep an eye on the floor for any evidence of delamination and if it does arise get it treated asap before your warranty period expires.
Phil
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