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Subject Topic: Help with ID plate and van weight please. Post Reply Post New Topic
15/3/2010 at 8:00pm
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Hi,

I have just been to check on the van again (getting paranoid about rain) and I had a look at the ID plate just to check on the weight, can any one help?

It has 3 figures,

0. 1000KG

1. 75Kg

2. 780KG

Does anyone know what these mean???  The purchase of a towcar depends on finding out the caravan weight. I have looked online to see if I can find its weight but to no avail. It is an Abi highway 459CT (5 berth)

Many thanks in advance

Mat



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i think, but not absolutely sure,

 0. 1000kg is the total max weight

1.  75kg is the nose weight

2.  780 kg is the unladen weight

 

From this you can measure how much you can load into your van i.e. 1000 - 780 = 220 kg.

Hope this helps.

Shirley



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15/3/2010 at 8:32pm
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Thanks,

I hope that is ok as the car  I have my eye on has a max tow of 1300kg



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to be safe the caravan should be at 85% of the kirbweight of the car.do not go off the max tow. IE.

KERBWEIGHT of car 1180 kgs / 85% 1103 KGS max for caravan.



Post last edited on 15/03/2010 21:37:19

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16/3/2010 at 9:13am
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Agreed, you should not be looking at the max tow for caravans.  That's for trailers that aren't so susceptible to wind as a caravan.  What car are you looking at, and what is the kerbweight?

Jim



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its a Peugeot 407SW 1.6HDI
gross weight 2127Kg
Min Kerb weight = 1567Kg

Hope this is ok....


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That would be fine, if the max caravan weight, or MTPLM is 1000Kg.

Jim



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Quote: Originally posted by mrandmrsH on 16/3/2010
its a Peugeot 407SW 1.6HDI
gross weight 2127Kg
Min Kerb weight = 1567Kg

Hope this is ok....
You should be able to tow a MTPLM of 1331kg using 85% of your stated min kerb weight.


16/3/2010 at 2:58pm
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Quote: Originally posted by coffe58 on 16/3/2010
Quote: Originally posted by mrandmrsH on 16/3/2010
its a Peugeot 407SW 1.6HDI
gross weight 2127Kg
Min Kerb weight = 1567Kg

Hope this is ok....

You should be able to tow a MTPLM of 1331kg using 85% of your stated min kerb weight.


But if the manufacturer states a maximum tow weight ie the 1300kg that you quoted above then this must not be exceeded under any circumstances.



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fine no problem

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There are varying reports of max tow weight - 1000kg and 1300 kg, If nanshirley is correct (second post) then the max weight should only be 1000kg, i.e 220Kg of Stuff inside! I am just a little concerned that it would be working the car too hard although only for a few journeys a year and no longer than 3-4 hours each way in total.... 



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I have just been outside to have a look on the plate of mine (Ace Jubilee Viceroy) and it is shown

 0. 1150kg

1. 75kg

2. 935kg. 

 I have also double checked in the spec. details that came with the van when new (21years old, but we have all the docs since new)  The details quoted on the plate, as above, are confirmed in the documention.i.e Max gross laden weight 1150kg, Max nose weight 75kg, unladen weight 935kg.

I would say that your Max is 1000kg and is therefore well within the limits of the cars max limit of 1300kg, and most certainly under the 85% as the calculation comes in at 64% (1567 divided by 100 multiplied by 64 = 1002.88)

Shirley

 



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Sorry I meant to add in that I have used the cars kerb weight for the above calculation.

 If using the cars max towing capacity of 1300kg, it still comes in below 85%.at 77% (1300 divided by 100 multiplied by 77 = 1001)

Shirley



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Many thanks for the help, think II will go and have another look at the car tomorrow.....  Fingers crossed he still has it!



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