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Just been on our first trip in our Bailey Ranger 470/4 and had a great time.

We found that we didn't really make any use of the bathroom and would much prefer to have that space as living space.

Are there any caravans out there (4 berth) that don't have bathrooms at all?  Or at least without a shower as we definitely won't use this.

Bailey vendee fixed bed tiny bathroom and probably loads of other makes i would imagine if you wanted 1 without a batroom at all then you would have 2 be looking at the older vans.Good luck hope you find what your looking 4.

Hi, just wait until you get to a site where the facilities are not up to standard or especially when facilities are busy and get messy very quickly, you'll be glad you have your own. Our latest van has a separate shower cubicle and its great to use when on a fully serviced pitch.

Paul

murano, the Lunar Zenith looks exactly the sort of thing I had in mind.

sudsy, we did like the fixed bed Bailey's but they're too heavy for us to pull.

However, I'm going to go on the advice of nawer and the others and have a few more outings before I decide whether to change.

Thanks all. x