I aint convinced, it says it lifts the dirt from the surface. But as soon as you wipe it off it will push the contaminants back down onto the paint surface and scratch it.
Better off with a woollen washmit and a bucket of nice soapy water.
EDIT...Have you read the testimonials....LMFAO....I gained 10% fuel economy from using the product. Bock and Cull
Quote: Originally posted by CandP on 08/4/2010I aint convinced, it says it lifts the dirt from the surface. But as soon as you wipe it off it will push the contaminants back down onto the paint surface and scratch it.
No it doesn't. It was recommended to me by a friend who's been using it for some time and her car always looks brilliant. I've used it about 3 times on mine now and there's not a scratch on it.
The one I bought was about £20 including p&p for 2 x 1-litre bottles of the cleaner, 2 spray attachments, and 3 bottles of other cleaners (stain removers and suchlike). It might be a bit more expensive than using a bucket of soapy water but a lot cheaper than a car wash and wax - and a lot less aggravation. I did mine last time in about 15 minutes. It builds up the protective wax finish and the rain and dirt tend to roll off after a while. I reckon I'll probably get at least 6 cleans out of one bottle, if not more.
I haven't tried it on the caravan yet but I've used Fenwicks and wasn't very impressed.
The action of wiping with very little water is a known to scratch paintwork, the dirt particles are very fine so it will not be easy to see. But belive me it WILL be scratching the paintwork. The product has fillers in that will detract from the fact that there are scratches.
Basically you are wiping dirt of with a mechanical action, using friction to remove the dirt. The only way to remove this is by applying pressure to the vehicle which will press the dirt back in....simples.
Just read about it on vehicle detailing forums, the guys who care about their paintwork and they will not touch it with a barge pole......
OK CandP, you obviously know best. The manufacturers say it doesn't scratch - that's misrepresentation if it does and they could be sued by users whose cars have been damaged.
If anyone's interested, this product is on Ideal World tonight (Saturday) at 7 p.m. - Sky channel 644.
I have to agree with CandP. When wet washing, the soapy water acts as a lubricant to stop any dirt scratching. This stuff will contain a wax to fill the scratches.
It is not unknown for washing a car in water to scratch, one of the reasons a vehicle body shop will always wash in soapy water as the soap forms extra lubrication to help protect the paint.
You can polish a dirty car without causing visible scratches, but it will be scratching, just not noticeabley since the polish is filling the scratches as it goes.
Since the scratching that this product may cause is not visible to the naked eye, I hardly ssee the manufacturers are leaving themselves vulnerable to being sued as the onus would be on the owner of the car to prove that a) the vehicle was not scratched before and b) the product caused the scratching.
Both of these would be difficult to do given that a) no one goes to the trouble of getting an independent inspection of their paintwork before washing their car and b) the product itself does not cause the scratching, but does not prevent other contaminants already on the vehicle from scratching the paintwork. I am confident you will find in the small print on the label or packaging a disclaimer that the product cannot prevent scratching of the paintwork caused by other contaminants. Having scoured the website, the only related claim I can see is that the product itself will not scratch but no claims that it will prevent other contaminants from scratching.
Gotta agree with the above posts. I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole.
Laquers on modern cars are soft and wiping any paintwork with a "dry" cloth will pick up stuff off the surface and embed it in the paint or scratch the paint. You may not see it immediately but after continued use you will look at your car in bright sunlight and wonder what happened to the paint! - especially if it is a darker colour. It too late when the damage is done.
Run your fingers across a bit of "clean" bodywork to see how much rubbish is stuck to it
Best way is a bucket of water once a week and a clay bar every 6 months..
Having used this product on our Saab,which is a dark grey,have not noticed any visible scratching to the paintwork,have used it on our previous car, our present day caravan and a folding camper .Since using it initially have found that the dirt doesn't stickl as easily.Therefore i'll continue to use it instead of a bucket and sponge and having to polish as well.As ulti-mates said particularly good for alloy wheels,and also for removing black streaks on the van when they occur.Cheers John.
Well I have to say its common sense on how you use this stuff, If you think your going to wash your mud covered car/ van with it then yes it probably would scratch it, however if you use common sense and remove the thick off with warm soapy water, let it dry and then buff it up with the dry wash/ wax it works a treat. I have used it for a good couple of years and my van is in tip top condition and always beading water off.
I would agree common sense should prevail. Wash thoroughly first using plenty of soapy water, give it a good hosing. Then apply the dry wash & it won't scratch...........
Bit pointless if you don't mind me saying. If you're going to wash it, then wash it. If you're going to "dry clean" it, then dry clean it. If you're going to wet wash it first, you might as well save yourself some money and use a normal wax polish.
I wouldn't suggest you used it after crossing a farmer's field in a foot of mud but normal everyday dust and spashes is fine.