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09/4/2010 at 7:43am
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hi everyone. i need some info for my son please. he is buying a small caravan. not a new one though. but. he has never towed one before. or a trailer of any type. he only passed his test 3 years ago. a friend will bring the van to him. and it will be put in a safe place. .so. the question being. what does he have to do now about towing. what other test is there if he has to take one.  i cant help as i am not a driver. motor bike only. i told him. dont attempt anything until you get all the info. and. apply for a course in towing.  your help please.

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09/4/2010 at 8:06am
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Hi, first check out what he can tow as I know if you passed your test after a certain year, there is a restriction on what you can tow without taking a further test.

Go the the C&CC club page

hereand that will give you a start with lots of information. They also run towing courses. And there are others if you do a google search. The best video is on you tube, search for Caravan Club - which helped me a lot with how to get it all hitched up safely.

ETA - I towed my van for the first time yesterday! I have previously not towed anything, not even a trailer. Once you get the feel of it behind you and adjust braking distance, take it wider on left-hand bends, etc. it's not that hard. I was thinking of going on a course myself, but none near enough to here. Turns out I didn't need to - just a bit of practice on familliar roads and I had soon got the hang of it - and even did a stretch of the M6, just one junction and I stayed in the inside lane. But it filled me full of confidence because it really isn't that hard!

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What car does he have? If its a small/meduim size & caravan is small & well within car towing limit he can tow it on his existing licence.


09/4/2010 at 9:16am
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   Have a look at the sticky on the "towing" sub- forum on here. In general terms if the total max allowed weight of the outfit is under 3500kg, as most small/medium ones are, he won't have to sit another DVLA test. A towing/manouvering course with one of the clubs is not compulsary but does give a good basic grounding as to what is involved, commercial tuiton would be quite expensive. I got chucked in at the deep end with a 4.5 ton Bedford and trailer and told to get on with it, but that was40 yrs ago, and things were a lot different then.  

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09/4/2010 at 9:48am
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hi tentz. he has a large car. vetra. the caravan is only small. 2 berth. also he is a very confident person. and a good driver. from what i have seen when i am with him. he is prepared to take a course in towing. but i dont know if there are any here in the gateshead area. i doubt he will be towing it very much. as he drives all week in his job. so i think he may well find a good site to take iot to. and leave it there. the van i have just found out is 1 year old.  dont know the make yet. . but he said it is in perfect condition.  owners health forces the sale.  as soon as he has a place for it. maybe i will get a free weekend away. hmmmm. maybe not. lol. yeah he said i can use it free. and i bet he puts the van where i dont want to go. . thanks for your help. i will let him read this when comes tonight for a visit.

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vectra a large car??? you are kidding arent you?  i thought you was going to say something like a 4 x 4 then, if that ws the case then he is going to have problems due to the weights but not with a vectra


09/4/2010 at 2:07pm
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Quote: Originally posted by damtnet on 09/4/2010
vectra a large car??? you are kidding arent you?  i thought you was going to say something like a 4 x 4 then, if that ws the case then he is going to have problems due to the weights but not with a vectra

Subject to checking the weights there is nothing wrong with a vectra for towing. loads of people do.

If you let us know which engine/model the vectra is and the make and model of the caravan someone on here will check the weights for you I am sure.

If it is below 3500kg he does not have to take lessons or pass a test. He can if he wants or he can just give it a go if he is confident. Or get a mate with some experience to go with him.



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i never commented about the vectra having anything wrong with it for towing, i was stating that its not a large car by any means, its a normal family saloon thats all


09/4/2010 at 2:22pm
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i dont know what model the vectra is. but it is fairly new. company car tho. but he has been told he can use it to tow the van to a site.  as for weight. well the van is small. you could probaly pull it by hand. i cant give much info about the car. as i dont drive. and only see my son once a week when he visits. i dont expect him to have a problem towing. just he was not sure about rules for new drivers. only 3 years since he passed his test. and i remember something on one of the forums about towing a trailer. and rules about the size if you had not passed your test before a certain date. that is why he was wanting to know. he wants to know for certain he is allowed to tow.

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i could pull our old van by hand and that was 20 ft long,actually i can pull our current van and that a twin axle so long asits on flat concrete by hand too and that weigh in at nearly 2 ton!!!, afraid that it means absolutely nothing to the rest of us if you want advise about him towing or not, you MUST have the model of the car and engine size and then the year make model of the van too


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09/4/2010 at 2:36pm
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see here

http://www.practicalcaravan.com/legal/index.html



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09/4/2010 at 4:14pm
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hi michael. i believe it is a big engine that is in the car. and son has been told his car can tow it with no probs.  thanks to everyone for ya help though. just my son was not sure about the new rules regarding towing a trailer. as he is still a new driver. well new as in 3 years. and never towed before. on reading that bit about towing. i see it says vans dont need an mot. maybe it would be a good idea if there was some sort of test for vans. mainly brakes and lights. and tyres.  i wonder how many vans would pass a test like that. what do you think about a test for vans. would you say its a good idea.

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I know someone who has a Vauxhall Omega with a V6 engine who tows a 5 berth Avondale legally, but cannot legally tow the same van with a Vauxhall Frontera. I therefore would not anticipate a Vectra having any legal issues towing a "small" caravan. The key issue is that the maximum laden weight of the outfit cannot be over 3500 kg and the weight of the van cannot exceed the weight of the car. It seems very unlikely that your son will fall foul of the law, but without some more details, no one here can give a definitive answer.

By comparison to some of the cars people are using for towing caravans, a Vectra is small, but that does not mean it is unsuitable for towing. Conversely, that should not be taken to mean that you can tow anything with a Vectra as it is not suitable for towing some of the larger caravans around.

Now, lets not start the debate about whether he should use a stabiliser or not


09/4/2010 at 5:17pm
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The Vectra weighs about 1550kg so he will be well within the 3500KG mark.

I tow with a Vectra and its a good tower (150BHP Diesel)

I cant see a small 2 berth weighing much more than 1300KG, Just let us know the make year and model of the van and we can do the maths for you :)


09/4/2010 at 5:42pm
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all i can really tell you is the car is large. diesel. and the van is small 2 berth. the van is about 1 year old. make i dont know. as i have not seen it yet. hopefully he will have the van here by sunday afternoon.

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