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05/5/2010 at 8:55pm
 Location: Lancashire
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05/5/2010 at 8:56pm
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Some caravan beds are comfortable where others are not!  You'll find out when you decide on which one lol.  You turn the cushions over and put the knee rolls at the head and foot of the bed.  We've got a huge front bed now so turning all the cushions over takes a little longer than on our old 'van but still not a bother.  Ours is still a little lumpy so we put a duvet (with cover on it - saves faffing with a bottom sheet cos we like a duvet instead of sleeping bags) over the bed or you could get a mattress topper.  But not all 'vans need one.  And the bunk beds stay made up all the time :) thats were we store the bedding during the day from our bed. 

We always use on site facilities so don't need a decent bathroom.  Our bathroom is not really designed for taking a shower in but it has one if we were desperate lol. 

Sorry it's not a postcard size reply :(

Have you looked on http://www.caravanfinder.co.uk/caravans.html for help in choosing the layout that suits you?  And ebay for pictures of all the different 'vans?  I found both invaluable when looking for our 2nd 'van.  They really helped in narrowing down the 'vans i would like to go and view.  We looked around dealers too. 

hth and let us know if you need any more info or when you get a new 'van :)



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05/5/2010 at 9:32pm
 Location: Nottinghamshire
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Hiya

We werent in the market for a van new enough to have a fixed bed but if we had of been buying new I would personally never have a fixed bed as it just doesnt seem practical with the kids. As it is the layout we've gone for will allow us to put them to bed (and close the little sliding door) and be able to stay up the other end until were ready for bed.

Bathroom wise we went for small as where poss I prefer to use camp facilities but if there are none I can get away with a cats lick and a promise in the little bathroom!



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05/5/2010 at 11:25pm
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Quote: Originally posted by mrshorsy on 05/5/2010
We werent in the market for a van new enough to have a fixed bed but if we had of been buying new I would personally never have a fixed bed as it just doesnt seem practical with the kids. As it is the layout we've gone for will allow us to put them to bed (and close the little sliding door) and be able to stay up the other end until were ready for bed.

Hmm Mrs Horsy Think you need to update your profile.  You still have your tent as your outfit and as far as i know no tent comes with a little sliding door lol...



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06/5/2010 at 12:57am
 Location: SOUTH YORKSHIRE
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Quote: Originally posted by ashwellgirl on 05/5/2010
Quote: Originally posted by mrshorsy on 05/5/2010
We werent in the market for a van new enough to have a fixed bed but if we had of been buying new I would personally never have a fixed bed as it just doesnt seem practical with the kids. As it is the layout we've gone for will allow us to put them to bed (and close the little sliding door) and be able to stay up the other end until were ready for bed.

Hmm Mrs Horsy Think you need to update your profile.  You still have your tent as your outfit and as far as i know no tent comes with a little sliding door lol...





I was just thinking the same thing.

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06/5/2010 at 7:55am
 Location: Nottinghamshire
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Yes need to take some pics this weekend! Weather was too rubbish last weekend.

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06/5/2010 at 9:11am
 Location: Surrey
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Take into account that most fixed beds (if not all?) are much smaller than the doubles you make up out of your lounge. I looked at the one on the new Pegasus the other day - flipping tiny! I'm sure it's even smaller than a standard double...

The front bed in our van feels almost as big as our super kingsize bed at home...

I think a fixed bed might be for when the kids grow up and it's just the 2 of us but they waste too much space for now.



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06/5/2010 at 9:50am
 Location: South Gloucestershire
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Hi

Replies to this will fall broadly into two categories - those who have never owned a fixed bed will remark that they take up valuable space, or that they are not large enough. 

The other category are those that have changed from seat/beds to fixed beds.  Like me, I think the majority of these people will tell you that it is an improvement and that the compromise on seat space is worth it.

Not many people who have used fixed beds will give negative feedback on them, only those people who haven't had them!

I was concerned about lack of living space, but to be honest the bed still has uses during the day - and the night-time comfort is way superior to seat/beds.  We had two seat/bed caravans before now - one with 'L' shaped lounge which was particularly uncomfortable as a bed and a traditional parallel seated one. Even with the parallel seats and fully sprung cushions over quality beech slats - and a mattress topper, we still had backache issues. (We don't normally have back problems).

After just a couple of weeks with a fixed bed van, I am completely convinced.  The space under the bed is massively useful and not difficult to get to.  During the day, coats can be laid on the bed and having the bed to lay our clothes holdall on when packing and unpacking clothes into the wardrobe is great.  The bed has a good soft headboard and with scatter cushions, can easily be used for lounging on during the day.  We still have a full width end-washroom, so haven't lost out there either.

Perhaps the only downsides I have noticed is that is not a great deal of seating if all occupants want to sit and watch TV together at the same time.  Luckily, there are only 3 of us and we don't watch the same programmes!  The kitchen area is not huge either, but we do put our oven to full use and there's just about enough room for us to do main meals.



06/5/2010 at 10:10am
 Location: Fife
 Outfit: Adria Adiva 552PH
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Can't comment on fixed bed as have never had one but the seat beds in our van are very comfy whether made up as a double or used as singles.  We have tried the bed both ways - turning the cushions over/not turning the cushions over and although it is comfy without turning the cushions it is more comfy when the cusions are turned.  Only takes a minute to make the bed up and to put away in the morning.  We have a bathroom across the back of the van and although we dont use the shower except in emergencies it is very useful for storage.  Good luck  finding the van for you, as someone said above you will know which one it is as soon as you sit in it.   

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06/5/2010 at 10:46am
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Am not disputing the comfort of a fixed bed and if it was just me and OH I'd prob want want but wonder how practical they are with kids? I imagine if we had one the kids would be in it as they go to bed about 9 even when were camping!

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06/5/2010 at 3:45pm
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Never had a fixed bed but we did consider them but instead opted for the front seat/bed layout with rear bathroom (2 berth) because :

More space in the rear bathroom. More space in the front seat area, Larger bed (although it has to be made up every day - but it not too much bother if you do away with fitted sheets !) More space in the kitchen esp. work surfaces. Overall shorter, lighter van.

Hope this helps,

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06/5/2010 at 3:52pm
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Quote: Originally posted by mrshorsy on 06/5/2010Am not disputing the comfort of a fixed bed and if it was just me and OH I'd prob want want but wonder how practical they are with kids? I imagine if we had one the kids would be in it as they go to bed about 9 even when were camping!

agree, to this,
when we went to the dealers to try put vans we did look at loads of fixed beds, but was not convinced it was for us, I like to sprawl in bed so does OH and when we layed on them it was not roomy, so we opted for the front make up bed it's huge and I can sprawl all over place in comfort lol. Plus we can all sit comfortably in the evening and watch tv without anyone being cramped.
If we were a couple I would def consider a fixed bed but for us as a family the set up we have is great.our van at present has end dinette so even when it is just us two we could make up the front permanantly and use the dinnette for eating up.
Oops sorry not postcard size reply lol
Donna



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