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28/5/2010 at 6:10pm
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 hi guys

wonderd if you could help me with my towing figuers and if i am correct please

 max permisible gross vehicle weight --1990 

max permisible towing weight-----3790

 max permisble front axle load 955 max permisible rear axle load 1065 .

 if my calculation is right i think i can tow a van with a mptl of 1300  

 any help would be great  .

also how much weight could i put into the van re tv and bedding so i wont be over loaded.



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use 85% of kerb weight of car to be safe.

      www.cuddles.abelgratis.net/kerbweights.htm -



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28/5/2010 at 6:17pm
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 cheers

is the kerb weight the gross vehicle weight--1990  and how do i work it out please might sound a bit dum but want to get it right



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look in your handbook it is NOT the gross weight  that is the kerb wieight plus you your mates and all your stuff  

 if you use that as the basis for the 85% principle you will be well over the legal limit and the insurance will be null and void if there is an accident



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 is it the unladen weight then which is 1490

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"look in your handbook it is NOT the gross weight  that is the kerb wieight plus you your mates and all your stuff  "

No. Its the kerb weight as stated in the handbook NOT anything else added in..

 

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28/5/2010 at 7:44pm
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 sorry the kerb weight is 1490 my appoligies

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Quote: Originally posted by mattbeck on 28/5/2010
 sorry the kerb weight is 1490 my appoligies

1490 x 85% = 1266 kg (MPLM)

Hope this helps



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Some are now saying 90% therefore you will be well within that limit

1490 x 90% = 1341 kg (MPLM) and certianly well within the vehicles max towing limit of 3790 (which seems rather a lot, what sort of vehicle is it)

As michael suggest try cuddles.



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90%

then add in your gear and...... CRASH

Sorry, but its 85% for a reason



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CARAVAN CENTRE DID ALL THE CHECKS AND SAID THAT IT WOULD BE NO PROBLEM BUT WE HAVE STARTED TO DO OUR OWN CHECKS TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE AND NOW I AM GETTING WORRIED, HOPEFULLY FOR NO REASON BUT AM HEARING DIFFERENT THINGS THANKS

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85% is a recommendation and a strong one at that  

 100% is allowable legally  but not recommended      the more experien ced you are   then the higher the percentage  theoretically   but be careful  very careful   the heavier the van the more likely it takes over when ther are winds and gusts etc 

stick to as near 85 if you can  or less                 don't go over 90 if you are new to the job



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85% of kerb weight is a recommendation just that and nothing more anyone that tells you anything other is not telling you the complete truth.

If you have passed your test since 1997 (I believe) then the maximum you can tow is a trailer and load (e.g. a caravan) with a weight equaling the kerb weight of your vehicle providing the combined weight of the tow vehicle and trailer does not exceed 3500kgs.

If you passed your driving test before the above date or have taken the towing part of your test then by law you may tow a trailer up to the gross train weight bearing in mind that the gross weight of your vehicle has to be deducted from the gross train weight so if your plated gross train weight is 4900kg and your vehicle weighs 2400kg then you are permitted by law to tow a trailer of 2500kg.


You must not exceed the maximum plated weight shown on your caravan nor the maximum plated weight on your tow vehicle (including weight per axle)

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THANKYOU FOR YOUR ADVISE EVERYONE

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Quote: Originally posted by cwdc56768 on 28/5/2010

90%

then add in your gear and...... CRASH

Sorry, but its 85% for a reason


If you read the full recomendations published by ALL the profeesional caranvaing bodies it says that  for a person without towing experience that ideaaly they should keep the actual caravan weight to cars kerbweight  to to 85% or less, but that with experience up to 100% is perfectly acceptable.

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For a licence dated 1997 or later you must add together the plated max weight of the caravan and trailer, if the total is 3500 or less you can tow it. You may even tow a caravan with a MAM greater than the cars unladen mass the restriction was removed in 2013

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