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18/6/2010 at 10:40pm
Location: Lancashire Outfit: Renault Kadjar 2016+Lunar Venus 500-4
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I'm thinking of changing my van to a Lunar Zenith 6 2008, as the one I have now feels too heavy for the vehicle I drive.
As some of you already know I've had a few problems with my current van as its 93% of the tow weight and the car isnt coping very well.
Would I be better with this one and will it be within the limits?
As I've a full washroom with a walk in cubicle shower at the moment that I love, how will I cope with the one the zenith has? Any suggestions, are they ok etc?
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19/6/2010 at 12:03pm
Location: Polesworth Warwickshire Outfit: Bailey Unicorn III Valencia (LR Disco)
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Hi Helen,
This is my fourth attempt at writing this post - I keep losing it at the point when I click 'Post Reply'. I am now using Firefox and the links don't seem to be working, so I have put them at the bottom on the post.
I googled the 2008 Lunar Zenth 6 and got this, which shows a MPTLM (maximum fully laden weight) of 1300kg.
I'm still unclear about exactly which Tucson you have. If you look at Michael's link from before, then even if you take the least capable van for towing, the 2008 2 litre, 2 wheel drive, Tucson, it gives you a kerbside weight of 1537kg and a maximum permitted towing weight of 1400kg. This means that 85% of 1537kg is 1306kg, so with the MPTLM (maximum fully laden weight) of 1300kg, you should be under the 85% even with stuff in the van. Things look fine.
For extra peace of mind why not post the exact weights on here? You need the maximum permitted laden weight of the caravan (find out from Lunar, the dealer, or better still the little plaque on the side of the van), and for the car, the kerbside weight and the maximum permitted towing weight. Information is obviously available from websites, but it is easy to make a mistake and to identify the wrong vehicle. If it is on a label on the side of the vehicle, I always think it is more reliable and is specific to that vehicle.
By the way, I have assumed that when you write Tuscan, you really mean Tucson? Personally, I like Tuscan better, anyway. It always reminds me of summer holidays in Italy. Perhaps one day you will get the chance to take the van all the way to Tuscany - then it will be 'job done!'
Best wishes,
http://www.caravanselecta.co.uk/Touring-Caravans/Lunar/Lunar-Zenith-6-CS98658.aspx
http://www.cuddles.abelgratis.net/hyundai.htm#tucson07
Post last edited on 19/06/2010 12:14:46
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21/6/2010 at 10:14am
Location: Blackburn Lancashire Outfit: Coachman Laser 650 and Discovery
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Not being able to read Japanese, I can only suggest
Max Gross Weight of the car
Max Train Weight
Max front axle
Max rear axle
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21/6/2010 at 12:03pm
Location: tamworth staffs Outfit: avondale highlight 505le
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Quote: Originally posted by Greendemon315 on 21/6/2010
Not being able to read Japanese, I can only suggest Max Gross Weight of the car Max Train Weight Max front axle Max rear axle Jim
that is also as i see it
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22/6/2010 at 9:47am
Location: Polesworth Warwickshire Outfit: Bailey Unicorn III Valencia (LR Disco)
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Remember Helen, that the maximum towable weight is much higher than the 85% of kerbweight recommended by the Caravan Clubs and other organisations for safety. If you look at the list provided by Michael, before, there are only 2 Tucsons on the list with a maximum towing weight of 1400kg: the 2 litre, 2 wheel drive (first in production 2007); and the 2 litre, 2wd CRTD Auto. The first has a Kerbweight of 1537kg (so 85% = 1306kg), and the second has a Kerbweight of 1616kg (so 85% = 1373 kg). As you van has a MPTLM of 1305kg, in both cases you will be within the safety guidelines for the vehicle (but see below - the bit in green italics).
The way I understand it is that the maximum towable weight is what the car is capable of pulling rather than what it is necessarily safe to pull. In considering the safety angle, then the 85% of kerbside weight is the 'generally accepted guide'. As I have said, if we have correctly identified your car from Michaels list then you should be OK, no problem. Always beware of the dealer who says, words to the effect, 'Nah, you wont have any trouble pulling the caravan with that'. Unless he quotes the figures, he is unlikely to know for sure - his prime objective will be to make a sale.
'Officially' I would still say check the car kerbside weight with the manufacturer. Being cautious, this is what I would do. After saying that, from the information we have, all the pointers tell us that you are probably within the 85% safety guidelines if the van is 1305kg. However, one of your posts puts the MPTLM of your van as 1350kg. If this is the case you would may not be within the 85% safety guidelines, if your vehicle is the first of the two mentioned above, although still legal to tow - just be very careful.
Hope this is helpful, Helen.
Best wishes
Post last edited on 22/06/2010 10:01:53
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