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22/6/2010 at 5:28pm
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Anyone with an alu tech bailey who is experiencing denting to the front panel caused by stones thrown up from towcar and / or other vehicles please contact your dealer or Bailey customer services asap. The more people who complain about their £17k caravans getting damaged this way the more chance we all have of Bailey sorting the problem out satisfactorily and repairing our damaged vans under warranty which they wont do currently. At the moment 34 complaints out of 4000 vans sold isnt enough to warrant any action other than the thicker protective film (now standard) to be sent out to existing owners when its usually too late anyway.


22/6/2010 at 6:02pm
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And maybe all caravan tow-ers should invest in a good set of mudflaps. My tow car came with some mudflaps, but they weren't long enough to stop mud, road dirt etc being sprayed on to the front of the 'van while towing. By adding a cheap pair of mudflaps which were just a couple of inches longer than the standard Nissan kit, I've greatly reduced the problem.

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22/6/2010 at 7:42pm
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I wonder if owners of Airstream caravans suffer the same problem?

David



22/6/2010 at 8:49pm
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Quote: Originally posted by David Klyne on 22/6/2010

I wonder if owners of Airstream caravans suffer the same problem?

David




Don't know about Airstreams - I suspect hat they have a thicker skin - I do know the designers of the Airbus A380 did have the same problem, it's due to thinning the aluminium to save on weight. Airbus overcame it by making the aluminium even thinner and then laminating it with GRP, somehow can't see Bailey being interested in resorting to that though

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22/6/2010 at 9:22pm
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Has anyone actually bought one I wonder David?


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22/6/2010 at 9:23pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Viggo on 22/6/2010
And maybe all caravan tow-ers should invest in a good set of mudflaps. My tow car came with some mudflaps, but they weren't long enough to stop mud, road dirt etc being sprayed on to the front of the 'van while towing. By adding a cheap pair of mudflaps which were just a couple of inches longer than the standard Nissan kit, I've greatly reduced the problem.
been there , done that and added industrial quality 4 ply reinforced rubber belting bolted to the original mudflaps that virtually scrape the road but it doesnt stop stones flicked up from passing vehicles damaging the van though ?


22/6/2010 at 9:34pm
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Dear oh dear

these super dooper Baileys dont seem to be coping well in the real world do they ?



22/6/2010 at 9:40pm
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Airstreams have a couple of stainless steel panels at the front to stop this problem!

See you all soon, Bernard



22/6/2010 at 11:05pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Rizzo on 22/6/2010


Has anyone actually bought one I wonder David?

There is someone on another forum who purchased one not so long ago and has just returned from a trip to North Africa with it. Expect sand does not do the same damage!

David



23/6/2010 at 1:01am
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Quote: Originally posted by bev+jon on 22/6/2010
Quote: Originally posted by Viggo on 22/6/2010
And maybe all caravan tow-ers should invest in a good set of mudflaps. My tow car came with some mudflaps, but they weren't long enough to stop mud, road dirt etc being sprayed on to the front of the 'van while towing. By adding a cheap pair of mudflaps which were just a couple of inches longer than the standard Nissan kit, I've greatly reduced the problem.
been there , done that and added industrial quality 4 ply reinforced rubber belting bolted to the original mudflaps that virtually scrape the road but it doesnt stop stones flicked up from passing vehicles damaging the van though ?


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23/6/2010 at 8:42am
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Quote: Originally posted by Big Al on 22/6/2010

Dear oh dear

these super dooper Baileys dont seem to be coping well in the real world do they ?


Indeed they do not. Some friends bought one recently, it's been nothing but a catalogue of trouble. However, no sign of stone dents as it's never been back from the dealers long enoiugh to go away in it.


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I don`t see how Bailey are liable for stone damage to the front of the vans, after all if you buy a car and that suffers stone damage you`d be laughed out of a dealership if you went back to complain.

As Bailey are totally open on their method of manufacture and the materials they are using in this new method of building their caravans, they can say it is surely up to the purchaser to make an informed decision as to whether to purchase or not.



23/6/2010 at 9:04am
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My late April build Pegasus has no damage & it has been towed about 600 miles so far. Plenty more towing due this year so I'll have a better report later in the year. I tow in 4wd mode.

To me stone chips are better than panel cracks.

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23/6/2010 at 12:34pm
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bev+jon

Your crusade against Bailey is becoming a bit tiresome now.  Get rid of the van if you are that unhappy with it, and move on.



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23/6/2010 at 12:37pm
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Nice to see Big Al opening his big mouth again.

Formerly his Jap-waggon was the only vehicle to tow with, now he has a Volvo, so I guess we can only wait for the howling U-turn regarding the Alu-tech, when he grows up a bit more.

In all other regards, the Peggy is a fantastically built 'van. As per normal, those folks with faults make more noise and for longer, than those with no problems. Personally, and for my money, I was not content with the finshed build quality of my Peggy. However it worth stressing that Baileys and the dealers have striven to rectify all the problems, including my own home-grown ones.

With regard to stone chips, which look to be a perennial problem, Baileys via the dealers are making good the damage, and adding more protection, in the form of plastic film to my 'van.

As said elsewhere, compared to the timber frame design, I'd rather live with some stone marks and bigger mudflaps than have to worry about rot, water ingress or the completely irrepairable damage to the ABS of my previous caravan front, which deteriorated through UV and stone impact.

As the OP makes the point, all Alu-tech owners need to make sure Bailey is aware of a groundswell of concern on the one point. That way, we might get a more substantial solution for the future.

Strax



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Strax you silly person !

Yes my Mitsubishi was a damn good towcar but I had to decide whiich way to go

A   a bigger caravan and keep the 4 x 4

  Change the car and get a lighter Caravan

I Chose option B

A 1350 kgs caravan and a 2 ltr Volvo




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