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07/7/2010 at 8:37pm
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Evening all

This Sunday we collected our van ( Pageant Bordeaux 2007 S6 fitted with the Remi Variotop roof light)to travel over to the lake district about a 90 mile trip.
After encountering high winds and driving rain on the trip we pitched the van only to find to our horror that the main roof-light was missing , van soaked etc etc

I managed to do a temporary repair using polythene and duck tape how long this would remain watertight I do not know. Whilst doing the repair I noticed that the roof light had snapped clean off just near the hinges and all hinges and the associated arms remain in place.

The van had just been serviced and it was on its first trip after the service ,Immediately my initial thoughts were was the roof light secure before travelling.

After some irate conversations with the dealer who carried out the service him blaming me and vice versa we had to cut the holiday short and have dropped the van off with the dealer to investigate.

On returning home i have stumbled across a topic in another forum which opens my eyes a little regarding previous similar happenings with this type of roof light in strong winds. Just penned an email to Bailey and eagerly await a response .

Will keep you informed of the outcome as I wouldn't want anyone else to encounter the same problem in the future , I cannot get out of my mind what the worst case scenario could have been.

Cheers

Jim


07/7/2010 at 8:58pm
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sorry about your misfortune with the skylight.bet you felt sick.i would.just done some work on ours and discovered that the skylight was only secured by fixings front and sides.the rear fixings were hanging in mid air not doing nothing.its a 2003 bailey.an accident waiting to happen perhaps.fixed it now.emailed bailey but no reply.

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I think the remis relies more on the sealant to hold it in place than the screws, the section that the screws go into being less than 1.5 mm thick.

Jim, is it the tilt and slide that you have?

As I have posted elsewhere I have recently seen 2 baileys driving along with their Heki's wide open, so it won't be just yours.


Michael, I know you have the tilt and slide, which way does it open ~ slide open towards the back of the van or towards the front of the van?

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07/7/2010 at 9:50pm
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I think the remis relies more on the sealant to hold it in place than the screws, the section that the screws go into being less than 1.5 mm thick.

no it has L shaped alloy brackets all round,the rear 4 were just hanging there not even touching the roof.

Michael, I know you have the tilt and slide, which way does it open ~ slide open towards the back of the van or towards the front of the van?

when we open it it goes forward to the front of the van.



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07/7/2010 at 9:53pm
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Its just the tilt one that tilts from the side, all the hinges and side arms are still in place and about an inch of the roof light is still atatched to the hinges.


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10/7/2010 at 1:13am
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There's another thread on here that says someone saw a caravan driving on A64 last weekend with the roof open, was this you??

I'll try to find it and link it for you.

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This is it........http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=8&TopicID=222201&PagePosition=3

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Quote: Originally posted by michael on 07/7/2010

I think the remis relies more on the sealant to hold it in place than the screws, the section that the screws go into being less than 1.5 mm thick.

no it has L shaped alloy brackets all round,the rear 4 were just hanging there not even touching the roof.




I know that the brackets are there, but the bit the screws go into is so thin they would never hold the roof light on by themselves or with non-setting bedding mastic

It is the sikaflex 512 or equivalent that holds the roof light in place, the screws just keep the light in place while the sealant sets.

Thinking about it - that's probably the reason why the guy (the one you met) that lost his whole light lost it - wrong sealant

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Quote: Originally posted by jimbouk on 07/7/2010
Its just the tilt one that tilts from the side, all the hinges and side arms are still in place and about an inch of the roof light is still atatched to the hinges.



Are these not the Heki rooflight - I thought Remis only did the tilt and slide?

And it is these that I've seen open on 2 Bailey vans within half an hour - so definitely one for Bailey owners to watch

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Quote: Originally posted by michael on 07/7/2010

Michael, I know you have the tilt and slide, which way does it open ~ slide open towards the back of the van or towards the front of the van?

when we open it it goes forward to the front of the van.<!-- Signature -->




That's OK then as that is the way I've fitted ours (but I wouldn't change it as we reckoned it is the way it should go )

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10/7/2010 at 9:55am
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Quote: Originally posted by Rune Caster on 10/7/2010
Quote: Originally posted by michael on 07/7/2010

Michael, I know you have the tilt and slide, which way does it open ~ slide open towards the back of the van or towards the front of the van?

when we open it it goes forward to the front of the van.<!-- Signature -->




That's OK then as that is the way I've fitted ours (but I wouldn't change it as we reckoned it is the way it should go )
clutching at straws,do you think some may be fitted the wrong way round.what we old caravannners call a friday van?

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Quote: Originally posted by michael on 10/7/2010
Quote: Originally posted by Rune Caster on 10/7/2010
Quote: Originally posted by michael on 07/7/2010

Michael, I know you have the tilt and slide, which way does it open ~ slide open towards the back of the van or towards the front of the van?

when we open it it goes forward to the front of the van.<!-- Signature -->





That's OK then as that is the way I've fitted ours (but I wouldn't change it as we reckoned it is the way it should go )
clutching at straws,do you think some may be fitted the wrong way round.what we old caravannners call a friday van?




Three things Michael:

one is I'm either hoping that the OP may have made a mistake and it was a Heki he had

two is yes, clutching at straws and some may be fitted the wrong way around

three is the wrong sealant was used

The last two are obviously Friday jobs...

mind you I did find this...




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oops thats good.lol

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We have a 2006 Pageant Burgundy with the side tilting Heki and we were flagged down on the way home last Sunday as ours was wide open despite checking all catches were fastened before setting off. When I checked the 2 catches they did not have a tight fit at all and I can only assume they " vibrated " loose and as it was quite windy it was blown open. I think we've been very lucky not to have a broken heki and will have to look at a solution that will stop the catches coming loose again.

              Jim



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Quote: Originally posted by JimC on 10/7/2010

We have a 2006 Pageant Burgundy with the side tilting Heki and we were flagged down on the way home last Sunday as ours was wide open despite checking all catches were fastened before setting off. When I checked the 2 catches they did not have a tight fit at all and I can only assume they " vibrated " loose and as it was quite windy it was blown open. I think we've been very lucky not to have a broken heki and will have to look at a solution that will stop the catches coming loose again.

              Jim


got me worried now,never been happy with two tiny catches holding down the skylight.will look at other options as an add on.

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10/7/2010 at 3:41pm
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Our Heiki has buttons which have to be pushed in before operating the latches to open the skylight. Is this a recent innovation?

Al



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