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31/8/2010 at 10:41pm
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Hello all,

Following on from my original recent post i would please like to ask another question which im quite stumped on.

I am soon going to purchase my first caravan being an ex tenter.

I have found my maximum weights for the car caravan combinations.

Now for the question.....

I drive a Honda crv (mark 2) Which has a Honda detachable towbar.

On the plate next to the towbar this states a maximum noseweight of 60kg which apparently is quite low.

Would this noseweight restrict the kind of 4 berth caravan i can get much?

Would i be better off buying a better or fixed towbar to take more noseweight as im sure i have read somewhere the car is upto it?

Many thanks in advance for any replies

Neil

:-)

 

 



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I am open to correction, but I would think that this specific point would not affect the choice of van - nose weight is determined by the distribution of the load in the van; i.e. the more forward of the axle, the greater the noseweight, the more rearward, the lesser noseweight - NOTE - this does not mean loading problems can be solved by moving items forwards or backwards. Heaviest weights should still be stored as low as possible and directly over the axle, but choice of van is more decided by ratio of max loaded weight to kerbweight of the towing vehicle (the "85% guideline").

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31/8/2010 at 11:26pm
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Ah okay many thanks.

I think im getting rather confused on that point!

Many thanks for you help.

Neil


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Quote: Originally posted by biffanio on 31/8/2010

Hello all,

Following on from my original recent post i would please like to ask another question which im quite stumped on.

I am soon going to purchase my first caravan being an ex tenter.

I have found my maximum weights for the car caravan combinations.

Now for the question.....

I drive a Honda crv (mark 2) Which has a Honda detachable towbar.

On the plate next to the towbar this states a maximum noseweight of 60kg which apparently is quite low.

Would this noseweight restrict the kind of 4 berth caravan i can get much?

Would i be better off buying a better or fixed towbar to take more noseweight as im sure i have read somewhere the car is upto it?

Many thanks in advance for any replies

Neil

:-)

 

 





The 60kg limit seems very low ? could be something to do with it being a detachable towbar as most MK2 CRV's have a 100kg noseweight limit with a fixed towbar and a 1500kg max towing weight


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I have an 06 CRV with a detachable towbar and a max noseweight of 100 Kgs. On mine you can't have a fixed towbar because the number plate is positioned at low level.

Regards, Brian



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01/9/2010 at 8:24am
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My understanding is that whilst noseweight is obviously affected by how you load the van, the rough guide to the proper noseweight is about 7% of the weight of the van. So if you had a heavy van and tried to reduce the noseweight by loading to the rear then it would be more prone to instability.

Therefore, as I understand it, the noseweight limit does affect the choice of van.



01/9/2010 at 8:50am
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Quote: Originally posted by Grad Sailor on 01/9/2010

My understanding is that whilst noseweight is obviously affected by how you load the van, the rough guide to the proper noseweight is about 7% of the weight of the van. So if you had a heavy van and tried to reduce the noseweight by loading to the rear then it would be more prone to instability.

Therefore, as I understand it, the noseweight limit does affect the choice of van.


Agree

 



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01/9/2010 at 9:13am
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Agreed.  It may be worth a word with the dealers to find out why the noseweight is so low, since others seem to have 100Kg available.  That would be my first step.

Jim



01/9/2010 at 6:14pm
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Yes now im a little disheartened.......

Having checked my cars handbook i have found the following infomation....

The maximum permissible vertical load on the couplling device is 60kg.

So yes the kerb weight is fine but i cannot understand why such a heavy 4x4 2.0 litre vehicle is so low on the vertical load weight?

Please help!

Neil

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Rip the page out of the manual and insert a photocopy of the page from Brian Roberts manual and it's sorted


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01/9/2010 at 9:23pm
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How about if you keep gas bottles etc etc out of the front locker and in the caravan over the axle when travelling???!!!

Just a thought but surely reduces nose weight.

Our vectra has a 75kg nose weight which i easily achieve and have two 7 kg bottles along with spare wheel, toilet chemicals etc in the front locker.



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Assuming the 'coupling device' means the towbar, could you get a different one fitted?  We have a detachable one with a max hitch weight of 100kg.

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01/9/2010 at 10:19pm
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Just looked at the Towsure site; again a noseweight limit of 60KG is specified for Spring 02 - Jan 07 Honda CRV but it also states max towable weight (for the tow bar) as 1500KG - 7% of this is 105KG, so the 7% guide doesn't apparently apply here - confusing!
Could it be a rather weak body pan?

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01/9/2010 at 10:27pm
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My towbar, on an 06 CR-V, is the detachable one manafactured by Bosal and fitted by my local Honda dealer. The vehicle is quite capable of handling a 100kg noseweight provided you have the appropriate towbar fitted as I have. The vehicle also has a stated maximum towing weight of 1500 kgs. These 2 weights are part of it's legal specification whereas the 7% and 85% limits are guides!


01/9/2010 at 10:48pm
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Thanks for your kind replies.

It is the cars handbook that states the 60kg limit as well as a red plate next to the towbar.

Has anyone any rough ideas how much you could safely lower the nose weight of a caravan by moving things around inside and packing light?

We have seen a lovely caravan we like but the miro is 1240kg by Bailey.

Would this now be totally out of our reach as we cant afford to also change car at the moment?

Many Thanks

Neil



02/9/2010 at 1:45am
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biffanio, what year is your cr-v?

This is the bar I've got

http://www.towequipe.co.uk/products/towbars-and-towbar-wiring-honda--humber-crv-detachable-towbar/027-873-bosal-towbar-detach-towbar-honda-crv-02-to-07-.html




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