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Subject Topic: Warranty Woes!!!!!!!!!! Post Reply Post New Topic
02/10/2010 at 9:57am
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I have a problem with my center window front - its seems that it has condensated at some point and has now left a unslighly mark in the middle about 3 inches square that i cannot clean.I ring my dealer and he is doing everything to not deal with the window replacement. says he has spoken to Bailey & the polyplastic window company and they say its not covered unless the seal around the sides of the window are damaged. I dont seem to be getting anywhere - am i being fobbed off and what can you do if they dealer and bailey keep saying no.

I must say i have had awful warranty service from the dealer and bailey they just dont want to know!!!!



02/10/2010 at 10:03am
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Don't think your dealer has spoken to Bailey otherwise you'd probably be waiting for an exchange unit at the moment.

There are quite a few post here about the problem which is not limited to Bailey caravans, the outer and inner skins of the window have been pushed together and rubbed on the inside while you have been traveling

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02/10/2010 at 10:07am
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Why not ring Bailey yourself? They are very helpful & I'm sure you'll get sorted a lot quicker.
I liaised with them when I was siting for a brand new order as the dealer seemed to drag his feet with any information and I found them very nice to deal with.


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02/10/2010 at 10:35am
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i agree with rune a faulty window with not enough gap in the centre of the window.a major problem with all front caravan windows at the moment. the signs of damage described are classic of this problem.

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/search.asp?search=windows&searchMode=phrase&searchIn=Topic&forum=31&searchSort=dateDESC&ly=2&Submit=Start+Search



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02/10/2010 at 11:03am
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theres loads of bailey and swift owners with this problem but ive heard 3 months wait for a replacement from polyplastic.


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02/10/2010 at 11:39am
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Hi Jason,

Can I suggest that you may be taking the wrong approach.  Firstly, you say that you have phoned the dealer. Have you not taken your van in and spoken face to face? Secondly, you have told them what you think the cause of the problem is.

Problem in life is that if you say to your dealer that you have a condensation problem then they, the manufacturer etc will deal with this as a condensation problem whether it is or not. They simply pick up on your lead. That is often the problem with many disputes when people fail to focus on the real issue by going off at a tangent.

Try saying that the window is defective and you want it repaired/replaced under the warranty. Simple as that. Let the dealer look at it and decide what is the cause rather than you tell him the cause.

It may look like condensation but it may be scratching especially if it looks a bit like a powdery residue or condensation. Have a good look at it. From your description it sounds like the same problem as I have. My dealer wanted to look at the problem before taking action...which, in my view was quite reasonable. My dealer saw it and immediately said that the window would be replaced with a new one under warranty. The thing is there have been many instances over the past year or so of polyplastic front windows bending whilst travelling and the two panes rubbing together leaving very fine scratch marks. Your dealer will be aware of this. My scratch marks look like condensation unless you get right up close to see the detail.

Because this has been a large problem across the EU it takes time to get the replacement window and in my case it has been two months. The van goes in on Monday to have the window replaced. 

If you are not wholly convinced that it is condensation, then suggest to your dealer that having looked closer at the window you believe that your van is suffering from the same defect (good word to use) as many other vans as a result of the fitting of defective polyplastic front windows. Say that you know that dealers/manufacturers are replacing these free of charge up and down the country, as the manufacturer of the windows is footing the bill.

What your dealer needs, if he has not asked for it already, is the vin number of your van and the the four digit code number on the faulty window. If you look for the polyplastic sticker on the affected window, on the left hand side at the bottom, near the circle with a capital E in it, you will see the four coded number. That should provide the dealer with the batch number for the window from which, hopefully, they will see that it is indeed one of the defective batches and get on and order a replacement.

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02/10/2010 at 12:12pm
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Yep, agree with all that, the problem is well known and nothing to do with condensation. As said, it is due to the manufacturing gap being too small and the 2 panes touching under tow.

We are now on our 3rd window, the gap in this one is huge compared to the others. We had no problem getting it replaced.

IMHO, there is NO WAY that your dealer does not know that there have been problems. The mistake you made was in telling them it was due to condensation.

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02/10/2010 at 5:22pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Jason Neville on 02/10/2010

I have a problem with my center window front - its seems that it has condensated at some point and has now left a unslighly mark in the middle about 3 inches square that i cannot clean.I ring my dealer and he is doing everything to not deal with the window replacement. says he has spoken to Bailey & the polyplastic window company and they say its not covered unless the seal around the sides of the window are damaged. I dont seem to be getting anywhere - am i being fobbed off and what can you do if they dealer and bailey keep saying no.

I must say i have had awful warranty service from the dealer and bailey they just dont want to know!!!!





Your dealer,s obviously fobbing you of , we had a replacement middle window under warranty on the 11 month and only because there was a mark between the windowpanes
My dealer had a replacement in 10 days from the time I reported it .
It seems to be that a lot of the caravan dealerships down south just don't care once they have your money , thankfully up here in Scotland it,s not the same and customer care is equally important .
Our local Bailey / Lunar / Burstner dealership has customers from all over Northern England and Southern/Central Scotland which shows how committed they are to the customers


02/10/2010 at 5:29pm
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We are awaiting our replacement for this known problem.  Ordered end of July, and I have also been advised of the 3 month wait, and longer for the CRIS kit to mark the new window with the VIN number.  Our dealer is 200 miles away and had agreed to send me the window to avoid the long journey.  It is a two minute job to fit it, and have been shown how to do it when the van went in for its service.  It's not a urgent repair and is not stopping us use the van, but just a little bit annoying we are having to wait so long.  I just ring them from time to time for an 'update', but when the three months is up, my phone calls will become increasingly more frequent.

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02/10/2010 at 5:29pm
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Your dealer,s obviously fobbing you off

agree,the dealer changed the front centre window on my friends caravan due to the mist in the centre,and he never told him the cause of the fault.he is now on his second window.believe polyplastics could go bust if they have to pay for all the replacements required (1000s) and some have had to pay a fee to change there's.read this last week.they are also have a delamination problem too.

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02/10/2010 at 6:33pm
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I don't understand this "3 month wait". I took my van in to have the faulty front window and a side window replaced, the dealer had a front window in stock and the side window took less than a week to arrive from Polyplastic in Holland.



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