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23/10/2010 at 7:50pm
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Has anyone used one of these?  They are less expensive to buy than the Alko, but does the Alko do any more/ any better than the Excalibur?  To echo a related thread: has anyone ever had a van stolen with one of these fitted.  I noticed that our local caravan dealer uses them on their vans.  I know they are good, but with Alko, I just wonder if you are paying for the 'brand name'?

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I have one and its easier to fit than the Alko because it is a slacker fit

I use it either with the Alko receiver or with the Excalibur receiver on the van offside

The item in Towsure catalogue states that wheel chock is not included when in fact its an integral part if used without the Alko receiver

 

Full Stop Excalibur Receiver Wheel Clamp
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Fullstop Security
£85.06
£99.95 inc VAT
Normal price £129.32

Full Stop Excalibur Receiver Wheel  Wheel Lock designed to fit caravans with alloy wheels from late 2005 with a factory-fitted receiver. The Excalibur is made from composite materials, as used on all FullStop® Wheel Clamps and is tested to exceed GOLD SOLD SECURE standards.

Incorporating a British made Lowe & Fletcher nine pin, anti-pick and anti drill locking barrel. Includes a compact, slim line carry case for easy storage.

With FREE Carry/Storage Bag
Wheel chock is not included



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24/10/2010 at 8:55am
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If they go on easier, does this mean they are easier for the thieves to get them off?



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24/10/2010 at 9:18am
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At home I use 2 Bulldog QD44 wheel clamps along with the Robostop and a couple of rear leg locks. But when touring I replace the QD44s with my Excalibur as it is far lighter and more convenient to carry around. Regarding it is safer than the Alko one, they both only take a few seconds to be cut off, so to does it really matter !  

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24/10/2010 at 2:01pm
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Quote: Originally posted by D S B on 24/10/2010

If they go on easier, does this mean they are easier for the thieves to get them off?


They will both come off with cutting torches

It goes on easier because  the part that goes between the wheel spokes is thinner and not made to fit specific wheel patterns

This gives more leeway as to wheel position

If its used with the Excalibur receiver/chock it can be fitted on either side of the van whichever is easiest in terms of levelling the van and lining up

It can also be fitted in front or behind the wheel relative to direction of travel

I put the Alko clamp on the nearside and the Excalibur on the offside especially if the awning is up and the Alko can't be seen 



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24/10/2010 at 3:42pm
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Quote: Originally posted by JohnG on 24/10/2010
I put the Alko clamp on the nearside and the Excalibur on the offside especially if the awning is up and the Alko can't be seen 
Another reason I am tending to go towards the Excalibur is that the Excalibur is more of a visable deterrent than the ALKO.

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24/10/2010 at 9:08pm
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Outdoor leisure specificaly state Excalibur does NOT fit onto the existing ALKO receiver which MUST be removed !?
I Emailed them to confirm this,which they have done.
I was about to order one as it seemed an ideal multi use lock.
1.Would fit existing receiver(alko)less critical for position.
2.Used with its own receiver with several options for position on either wheel.
So......has lock spec now been changed to avoid legal conflict....looks a lot like it.!


24/10/2010 at 9:29pm
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Quote: Originally posted by kerrysdad on 24/10/2010
Outdoor leisure specificaly state Excalibur does NOT fit onto the existing ALKO receiver which MUST be removed !?
I Emailed them to confirm this,which they have done.
I was about to order one as it seemed an ideal multi use lock.
1.Would fit existing receiver(alko)less critical for position.
2.Used with its own receiver with several options for position on either wheel.
So......has lock spec now been changed to avoid legal conflict....looks a lot like it.!
...Oh!!  That's a real shame.  Was just about to get one.

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24/10/2010 at 10:04pm
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The ones from here fit.  In fact they state specifically that they are to be used with the ALKO receiver.  It says (capitals copied!!) "DOES NOT COME WITH RECIEVER, TO BE USED WITH ALKO RECIEVER ONLY." - although they did spell receiver wrong?

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25/10/2010 at 12:03am
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Towsure have been advertising as I posted above that the wheel chock is not included

Its connected to the arm that the receiver is on !!

I bought mine from Towsure and it does come with the receiver and chock and it does fit the Alko receiver which by a strange coincidence is the same thread as the Excalibur

 



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They don't look as solid as the alko ones.  The plate looks as though it could be cut through easier with a gas torch.  The problem is that there are few figures on the track records of these devices.  There is a big price advantage but they would probably still need a twin axle to be jacked up to fit.


25/10/2010 at 8:36am
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That's all true

I think that in fact cutters are used on the receiver rather than the lock plate and as the Excalibur covers a bigger area it could make that more difficult

They will deter most thieves but determined tooled up ones with gas torches will still be able to cut off most if not all wheel clamps on the market

As to the twin axle still needing jacking up what you have to consider is that you can put the Excalibur on any of the 4 wheels using its own receiver or the Alko ones and you can also put the receiver in front or behind the wheel relative to direction of travel so there  is a lot more chance that a second wheel will line up  

They don't have to be on the same side etc



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Hi

 

We use the excalibur wheel lock and it DOES fit where the alko one should. we have a 2010 swift and it was cheaper and easier to fit than the alko one and can be fitted even if the tyre valve is in line with the alko receiver.

 

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01/11/2010 at 10:25am
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Quote: Originally posted by Missedagain1 on 25/10/2010
Hi

We use the excalibur wheel lock and it DOES fit where the alko one should. we have a 2010 swift and it was cheaper and easier to fit than the alko one and can be fitted even if the tyre valve is in line with the alko receiver.

HTH.


In the end we decided to go for the Excalibur.  Haven't fitted it yet though.  It comes with three washers or spacers, and it looks like trial and error as to which one to use.  Does anyone have any experience of fitting one to a Pageant 7?  I assume they will all be the same size - which washer/spacer did you use?  Just trying to save a little time and effort.

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01/11/2010 at 10:28am
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Quote: Originally posted by JohnG on 25/10/2010
Towsure have been advertising as I posted above that the wheel chock is not included

Its connected to the arm that the receiver is on !!

I bought mine from Towsure and it does come with the receiver and chock and it does fit the Alko receiver which by a strange coincidence is the same thread as the Excalibur


John - which of the washer/spacer things do you use on the California?  Is your California a 2009 model?  There's a chance that my 2009 Sancerre will be the same.

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I I used 3 as in the pic above

It is a 2009 model 



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