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PersonTim and Cary
21/12/2010 at 8:21pm
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Following a warning on another caravanning website about the danger of bottles freezing, bursting and then making a mess when thawing I've just been out to my 'van, which is stored on our drive to check.

We had a number of bottles of drink stored in the floor level cupboard under the oven. A 2 litre plastic bottle of ginger beer was completely frozen and there were several partially frozen ones. In another cupboard a plastic tub of cooking oil was frozen solid. I, also, removed the plastic bottles of cleaning fluids from the cupboard under the bathroom basin as a number of those were partially frozen too.

I had carefully winterised the 'van including draining the water system but I had not thought of the problem of freezing bottles.

It might be worth it for others to check if you've got bottles of liquids stored in your 'van.

Best wishes
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Personjhsw
21/12/2010 at 8:48pm
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Hi Tim, Ment to do it when closed van down for winter,Forgot, need to do it to-moro Thanks for the reminder, that reminds me saw a bottle of Irn brew in the car OH had put it in the door pocket and it was solid ice,realy need to get that out too. Thanks again.Merry Christmas and all the best for the New Year, To you All.

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got toilet fluids left in mine, (in bottles only as drained the system) better go and get them out!


PersonTim and Cary
22/12/2010 at 10:58am
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Whoops! Thanks for that Andcow.

I haven't removed the bottles of toilet fluids from the front locker yet. It looks like I'd better go back to the 'van as they're probably even more exposed to the low temperatures than the bottles inside the 'van as the front locker cover is only thin and has "drop out" slots in the floor. A bit of a pain as the Protec cover is in place.

If we're going to have winters like this one in future I think "bottle removing" had better go on the "winterising list".

Tim

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Personmichael
22/12/2010 at 3:17pm
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I had carefully winterised the 'van including draining the water system but I had not thought of the problem of freezing bottles.

i have had frozen blue and pink toilet liquids before today,just think of the MESS that could make.

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Personstevo1
22/12/2010 at 4:06pm
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Got some Red wine in overhead locker. Think this starts to freeze at around -6 c ! 24


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24/12/2010 at 12:46pm
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Think of the mess if one of those cracks then thaws!


Personfreeatlast
24/12/2010 at 3:51pm
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Who cares about the mess. WHAT A WASTE!


Personjayare
26/12/2010 at 12:06pm
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Thanks for the warning....we usually go out in the van most weekends, but both our December jaunts were cancelled, but are planning to go out for new year. Decided we had better check things before we go to Stockton on Tees C.C. and just as well. Our van is stored in a big shed/hangar so is a bit warmer than outside but still stuff had frozen inside the van lockers. In the fridge was a big brown slushy ice crystal mess where a tin of coke had burst open. The shower shine spray stuff was frozen. The toilet was frozen so the blade is stuck shut. At least I was able to clean up a bit so it will not be a shock when we want to set off.


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28/12/2010 at 5:08pm
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Thanks for the reminder, we was careful to make sure all the water was drained etc, after reading your post we today went to the van to remove all the toiletries and pink/blue toilet chemical, we found all still frozen, including furniture polish, the toilet chemical containers looked like they were ready to explode, so all now safely out of harms way on our garage floor , Thanks Again


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28/12/2010 at 5:16pm
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welcome,do not like to think of what a mess that blue stuff could make,sticks to everything it touches.

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30/12/2010 at 9:48pm
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doesn't blue freeze at -8


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30/12/2010 at 11:05pm
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Quote: Originally posted by sparky 1 on 30/12/2010
doesn't blue freeze at -8
do not know of the temperature at the time in march of last year when getting the van ready.feel sure it was not as cold as minus 8.when i tried to pour out into the bottle i carry it was frozen.

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besides we have had temps below -8 some nights recently


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31/12/2010 at 11:18am
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Hi

I "bit the bullet" of retrieving the bottles of toilet fluids from the 'vans front locker on 23 December. I managed to ease up the front of Protec cover enough to open the front locker but then Cary and I had to crawl around in the snow re-securing the cover straps we had had to undo - lovely!!!

The green fluid (pink equivelant purchased in Croatia) was frozen solid. The Campbells Caravans "Blue" and Thetford Wastemaster liquid were still liquid.

Anyway job's fully done now!!! Next winter I'll remember to take out the bottles when I winterise the 'van.

Tim

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