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14/3/2011 at 12:11pm
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Quote: Originally posted by flip53 on 14/3/2011Not exactly - round the trees which are on the grass where people sit and the flower beds.


We do, though, empty the on board water tank and heater water straight onto the pitch which is unavoidable when the valves are opened at the end of a trip.

I know this is clean but have noticed there can be a fair amount which can water log it a bit.
Can I avoid this then if it is not good "etiquette"




I would suggest 2 things you could do. First, try to estimate your water requirements more accurately so that you do not have a large amount left in your on-board tank.

And secondly, as said above, you should not dump hot water onto grass as it kills it. Turn off the heating an appropriate length of time before you leave and let it cool while you pack up.

You could then empty your tanks by pumping through into your waste container and disposing of it in your usual manner. But do make sure it is cool first.






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14/3/2011 at 12:30pm
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I generally pull off a site and stop in the first lay-by I can and while checking the van over I open the drain valve and let the water drain onto the road. No doubt I will get castigated for not checking my van before I set off but this is a 2nd check.

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14/3/2011 at 1:00pm
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Quote: Originally posted by jennifernn on 14/3/2011
Quote: Originally posted by flip53 on 14/3/2011Not exactly - round the trees which are on the grass where people sit and the flower beds.


We do, though, empty the on board water tank and heater water straight onto the pitch which is unavoidable when the valves are opened at the end of a trip.

I know this is clean but have noticed there can be a fair amount which can water log it a bit.
Can I avoid this then if it is not good "etiquette"




I would suggest 2 things you could do. First, try to estimate your water requirements more accurately so that you do not have a large amount left in your on-board tank.

And secondly, as said above, you should not dump hot water onto grass as it kills it. Turn off the heating an appropriate length of time before you leave and let it cool while you pack up.

You could then empty your tanks by pumping through into your waste container and disposing of it in your usual manner. But do make sure it is cool first.





Is it really feasible to estimate the water you would need in your on-board tank? I'm sure mine fills itself up to the brim when you first connect everything up, then keeps itself topped up whenever you use hot water. So whatever you do, you're always left with a full hot tank, unless you disconect the aqua-roll then, say, have an excruciatingly hot shower!  Help me out here, I guess I'm missing something...

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14/3/2011 at 6:16pm
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If you disconnect your Aqua Roll would your pump not continue to run? I would just do your best Conoseur. Whatever you do I am sure will cause net curtains to twitch somewhere. 



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14/3/2011 at 6:19pm
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Yeah most heaters are always full ! to try and estimate water usage is totally impracticable imho, to turn off the heater is great if you remember..which is normally when packing up ..


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14/3/2011 at 6:47pm
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Why empty it at all, It wont save that much fuel, I empty my caravan water tank for winter storage.

The rest of the time the water is recycling every time you fill up. 



14/3/2011 at 6:55pm
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Can be a weight issue for some i guess, an extra 10kg from memory.

 



14/3/2011 at 7:03pm
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Quote: Originally posted by flip53 on 13/3/2011


Where I store and pitch there is only the chemical toilet disposal point. The owner asks us to tip grey waste over the trees and hedges. I must admit I don't get the thinking behind it. Is it just because they have no special facilities? It doesn't seem that hygienic to me as I know mine has soap, cleaning stuff, soap. Because he allows it I often tip my washing up bowl straight onto the grass to save it (a) going down the pipes if there are any small bits of (unavoidable) food and (b) saves emptying the waste container as frequently as it can become quite heavy.

Wonder what the dreaded Health and Safety thinking is on tipping what amounts to dirty water over areas where people may sit?

Could be to kill the green fly and other bugs they dont like soapy water, my dad always empted the soapy water over our roses.




14/3/2011 at 7:21pm
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TBH we use the van at weekends on the site where we store. he tows it back into storage for us. It wouldn't seem that bad an idea to leave the water on board but again hygiene? What good would it be if it has stood a couple or three weeks.

No I think I will continue to empty onto the hard standing - its clean water - can't estimate what's left in it when we pack up unless we have transparent water/heater tanks.

I know I am pretty respectful of people's sites and rules so until he tells me differently I will continue to empty the tank onto the hard standing.

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14/3/2011 at 9:26pm
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I'd be very wary of towing with a full water tank, as it can slosh about and cause instability. I'd rather kill the grass than kill myself.

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14/3/2011 at 9:31pm
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I used to until I saw parts of earwig's coming out the tap's if its full they can't get in.


15/3/2011 at 2:01am
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Quote: Originally posted by Conosseur on 14/3/2011
Quote: Originally posted by jennifernn on 14/3/2011
Quote: Originally posted by flip53 on 14/3/2011Not exactly - round the trees which are on the grass where people sit and the flower beds.


We do, though, empty the on board water tank and heater water straight onto the pitch which is unavoidable when the valves are opened at the end of a trip.

I know this is clean but have noticed there can be a fair amount which can water log it a bit.
Can I avoid this then if it is not good "etiquette"




I would suggest 2 things you could do. First, try to estimate your water requirements more accurately so that you do not have a large amount left in your on-board tank.

And secondly, as said above, you should not dump hot water onto grass as it kills it. Turn off the heating an appropriate length of time before you leave and let it cool while you pack up.

You could then empty your tanks by pumping through into your waste container and disposing of it in your usual manner. But do make sure it is cool first.





Is it really feasible to estimate the water you would need in your on-board tank? I'm sure mine fills itself up to the brim when you first connect everything up, then keeps itself topped up whenever you use hot water. So whatever you do, you're always left with a full hot tank, unless you disconect the aqua-roll then, say, have an excruciatingly hot shower!  Help me out here, I guess I'm missing something...



Yes, you missed the bit where it says.... "on board water tank AND heater water"....indicating that they have an on-board cold water tank (as we also have), and of course a water heater tank.

Unless you have a fairly new or very expensive van, your on-board cold water tank will not auto-fill when connected, you have to connect it to your Aquaroll and pump the water in by correctly setting the valves or switches.

Most on-board tanks hold about the same as an Aquaroll, which also holds about the same as a Wastemaster, so it is pretty easy to keep track of the water. When the Wastemaster is full, the Aquaroll or tank will be empty.

On-board tanks are also usually fitted with a level gauge, so you can see how much is in them.

So you can figure out, when nearing departure time, whether you need to fill more water or not.

The hot water tank is a different matter, that obviously refills as you use it. What I was suggesting was that the heating of the water could be switched off a suitable length of time before leaving, allowing the water to cool before being dumped.

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We run the hot water through the pipes (into the wastemaster of course) to clean the pipes out. This is after turning the heater off.
At the cc site in Henley on Thames there was a note to pull off the pitch before emptying your hot tank so as not to damage the grass.

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Maybe stick  a bowl (we have one in the sink) under the water outlet when draining the water off at the end of your stay, then it doesn't wet the grass/hardstanding.

Phil 



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15/3/2011 at 11:10am
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Quote: Originally posted by cwdc56768 on 15/3/2011

Maybe stick  a bowl (we have one in the sink) under the water outlet when draining the water off at the end of your stay, then it doesn't wet the grass/hardstanding.

Phil 


          That's what we do Phil, water heater and toilet flush tank, but in our case it's into the bucket we always carry. The bucket is also handy, empty of course, for keeping the smaller bits and bobs, toilet fluid bottles etc. together in the front locker when on the move, as well as it's primary role, washing in, after playing with mucky steam engines.

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