Hi. I have, gulp, just bought a caravan again after nearly fifteen years tenting.
I am thinking at the moment that I will continue to use the campsite showers, so am wondering about any clever uses for what might be wasted space in the shower cubicle. My van is an Elddis Avante with a rear corner toilet and shower room. The layout is toilet first as you step inside with the rectangular shower cubicle beyond. So the shower is in the far corner of the van, iyswim, and you don't have to step through it to get to the toilet.
I was wondering about using a springloaded/pressure operated type rod for a hanging rail for jackets, but not sure it would take the weight. Any thoughts?
Or any other clever ideas for making the most use of the shower space?
Cheers
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dont use spring loaded type as it will push the walls poss out of shape. use fixed rail on holders. ready available from B&Q etc. exactly what we use the shower area for also as a drying room for wet things at times.
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Quote: Originally posted by D Mansworth on 14/3/2011
dont use spring loaded type as it will push the walls poss out of shape. use fixed rail on holders. ready available from B&Q etc. exactly what we use the shower area for also as a drying room for wet things at times.
Stupid question - how have you fixed the 'holders' in place? Don't think I'm brave enough to do anything which would involve making holes in the walls!
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Quote: Originally posted by FionaW1971 on 14/3/2011
Can't help, but congratulations Merry on your new caravan!!! You will have to let us have a look at her
Thanks Fiona! There is a video of an Elddis Avante 544 2007 (my van) here , it looks exactly like that. A very kind member on here found that link for me the first time I saw the van, but although the van felt right straightaway it took me a while to make up my mind that I was actually going to buy it.
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We didn't want to drill holes in the van for fear of damage and spoiling van for potential buyers if we ever sell (Hope we never have to!!)
We use a sprung loaded shower curtain rail. (B&Q about £10)Quite robust. Doesn't seem to harm the walls so far. We hang towels on it or light items to dry, direct the blow heating into the shower area and then nice dry towels for next shower. Saves hanging them from the lockers over the bedroom which we originally did but drove us barmy every time we needed to get into cupboards.
I have read that some people plug a small heater in and use it as a drying area if there is no heating, or if heating is poor.
Thats a lovely van Merry, I love all that work surface space - I can see why the shower cabinet would make a great storage space if you aren't using it being right out of the way like that.
Quote: Originally posted by D Mansworth on 14/3/2011
dont use spring loaded type as it will push the walls poss out of shape. use fixed rail on holders. ready available from B&Q etc. exactly what we use the shower area for also as a drying room for wet things at times.
Stupid question - how have you fixed the 'holders' in place? Don't think I'm brave enough to do anything which would involve making holes in the walls!
no not stupid, quite right to ask if unsure.
a small peice of ply about 4" sq sanded edge etc fixed with two or four screws ( one each corner) drilled first and screws going no more than 10mm into inner wall. then fix the rail brackets to the ply. the ply will act as a surport and will allow removal at a later date leaving just two very small holes that can be filled if needed with no sign of damage. dont do as some clowns do and use any old screw that will do get right gear to start with. was called to one that had used a 2" screw and sent it through the outer wall. fixed it but it never looked right after.
a spring rail will require quite some tension to hold an amount of clothes and that will apply pressure to walls and disstort them. dont worry about tales of holes in caravan and resale. if done correctly its no problem at all. just ensure you go 10mm max into the inner wall. after all how does one think fixtures and fittings are installed. just get a cup of coffee sit down in the van and think it through.
small 1kw fan heater is a must have extra in any caravan it has so many uses. as is the radiator hang type of clothes dryer to hang on opened window for tea towels etc etc to dry. about £5 in wilkinsons etc and cant do without.
but I expect there will be floods of contra advice soon to flood in.
You could use a freestanding shelf unit. We had a cheap wooden shelf unit so i covered it with a sheet and loads of staples lol. It looks good, is lightweight and was so much more useful to us than the large wardrobe with just a hanging bar. We took more folded clothes that needed storage shelves rather than clothes that needed hanging so it suited us but may not suit you?
We are now into our 5th year with a van with end bathroom. Wouldn't dream of using anything but our own shower now, regardless of how 'good' the on-site ones may be. All site showers are not as clean as they might look, and your own shower does extend your ability to use sites without these facilities.
I would recommend, whatever you do, don't make anything irreversible. You might change your mind one day, and you could spoil your chances of a good selling price at some future date.
I definitely don't want to do anything which would rule out v v easy change of use back to a shower, but I've been happily using for some years the showers on the site where I'll be this summer so plan to carry on like that. But, who knows, I might change my mind.
I understand the advice about fixing in a clothes rail but feel too nervous and cackhanded to attempt it myself.
I'd starting wondering about a freestanding coatstand, but much prefer the idea of a shelf unit, with added coat hooks. Clever people!
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We use a spring loaded pole and the big suckers normaly used for awning poles,if your concerned about it being to tight for the walls or it sliping, use some of that anti slip cloth, comes on a roll
I have adapted about three of our last vans to take a pole.
Rather than screw anything into the wall (something I would never recommend) you can buy a pole that, rather than being spring loaded, winds in or out to make the length variable. In addition you could araldite? two wardrobe pole hangers (plastic) on either side of the shower.
Our present set up involves a pair of those round 'drying cloth' holders, the type that have a flap of rubber cut into the shape of a cross. They were all the rage in the 50's and have made a comeback in funky colours.This is the type I mean;
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-x-SELF-ADHESIVE-TEA-TOWEL-GRIP-HOLDERS-PUSH-TYPE-/360348531119?pt=UK_Kitchen_Accessories&hash=item53e67239af
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If any form of clothes hanging bar is installed by using its pressure to keep it in place, isn't there a risk of cracking the plastic skin of the shower cubicle?
Quote: Originally posted by The 2 Tops on 16/3/2011
If any form of clothes hanging bar is installed by using its pressure to keep it in place, isn't there a risk of cracking the plastic skin of the shower cubicle?
Bertie.
i was thinking on the same lines.any damage to the shower walls could prove to be very expensive to replace or stop people buying your van when it comes to exchange time.even a caravan trader will knock off the cost of replacement.
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