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13/6/2011 at 1:10pm
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Hi - Just bought a new 75A battery.

Very confused by the varied advice regarding charging/keeping up the charge/regular re-charging!

1. Is it essential to have the battery "deep" charged?

2. Is a "Smart" charger the correct one?

3. Can I "start off" the battery by trickle charging and purchase the appropriate charger later?

4. Are new caravans fitted with "Smart" chargers? If not, why not?

Reason for new battery - had a mover fitted and it showed how feeble (dead) the old battery was!

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13/6/2011 at 1:15pm
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smart charges are the way to go. see looking after battery

http://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/helpandadvice/technicalhelp/datasheets/



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You can charge it with any car battery charger. With a smart charger, you can leave it connected permanently. With an ordinary charger, it needs be be disconnected once charged.


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We never seem to need to charge ours ,have we found the secret of unlimited power ?

Seriously though ,it seems to keep its self charged but then we dont have a mover :/

We did however fork out a lot of money for a smart charger as were told a normal one damage the battery ?



13/6/2011 at 7:20pm
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As i understand it to get the best out of a battery it should allways be charged to full capacity. Most chargers inside your van will only charge your battery to about 75% capacity. The reason for this is to achieve a full charge to the battery a charger must charge at a higher voltage which can result in the leisure battery gassing which could possibly cause H&S problems if these gasses were to leak into the caravan. A smart charger will put this higher voltage through your battery and because its more portable than a fixed charger you can place your battery somewhere safe with a bit of ventilation. A smart charger will also help de sulphate your battery.

so to sum up!

1. Is it essential to have the battery "deep" charged?
YES if you want to prolong the life and get the best out of your battery.

2. Is a "Smart" charger the correct one?
Yes, i have a Ctek but not the cheapest. Cheaper that a new battery though!

3. Can I "start off" the battery by trickle charging and purchase the appropriate charger later?
My advice get the smart charger charger! Deep charge it every time you get home, Trickle charge it while you are away (with caravan charger)

4. Are new caravans fitted with "Smart" chargers? If not, why not?
NO not usually for reasons mentioned above.


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13/6/2011 at 7:20pm
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Hi mine is on charge all the time pluged into the garage on a timer 2 hours a night but before we go off I always give it a good 4 hour boost on the battery charger because we have a motor mover.Ian


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Quote: Originally posted by idmainian on 13/6/2011
Hi mine is on charge all the time pluged into the garage on a timer 2 hours a night but before we go off I always give it a good 4 hour boost on the battery charger because we have a motor mover.Ian
Hi, same here.

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13/6/2011 at 10:19pm
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mine is on a timer plugged into the shed.4 hours a day most times it reads 13 volts after charge.

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23/2/2012 at 10:35am
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When you are at a campsite do you leave it on charge permanently? My battery is an 85ah. I don't have a motor mover. The only 12v in mine will be lights and the water pump?

Fred.



23/2/2012 at 11:13am
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if plugged into EHU on site it will charge your battery as required. summer time ours is plugged in by EHU for 27 nights at one go with no adverse effects.a fully charged battery will not freeze but a half charged one or less can. a caravan charger will not go above 13.5 volts on charging.

http://www.batterystuff.com/kb/articles/battery-articles/battery-basics.html#6

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Here are some interesting facts regarding battery maintenance that may be of some help to you.

http://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/helpandadvice/technicalhelp/power/your-leisure-battery/



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I was having a looky round the web on the do"s and donts on charging.I came upon these 2 sites which totally disagree on leaving a battery on a concrete floor after charging so,who do we belive ?The first one reads from the discharge part

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23/2/2012 at 1:16pm
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Thank you for the replies. I had a folding camper and never used a battery with it. I had caravans quite a few years ago with no batteries. I bought a 1996 coachman late last year but not used it yet. I have been doing my homework on everything including batteries. I have read the caravan club info and lots of others but never seen mention of 'when caravan is in use on campsite leave battery charger switched on?' There are lots of good tips about batteries and battery care including car/ leisure differences. It seems to me to make sense to leave the charger on if I am using lights etc. I wondered if it should be turned off during the day and if it harmed it if the charger was left on? The battery that came with the caravan 85ah seems in good condition showing 12.7 volts when the charger is switched off. I see above Michael leaves his on charge on site. I have my caravan on the drive with electric plugged in and have charged it from time to time. I have now (as jhsw above) put a timer on it for 2 hours a day.

Fred.



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 hi brian dont use an ordinary charger on a liesure battery it will ruin it use a smart charger i got one it charges then goes into maintenance mode  £25 from halfords

 hope this helps allan-d



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Quote: Originally posted by allan-d on 23/2/2012

 hi brian dont use an ordinary charger on a liesure battery it will ruin it use a smart charger i got one it charges then goes into maintenance mode  £25 from halfords

 hope this helps allan-d


I fully agree with this also and was advised this by an expert in the auto electrical trade. I also use a smart charger myself made by 'Durite' but on many occassions you get people on here stating that it's okay to use an ordinary car battery charger to charge a leisure battery when it's not. It has been mentioned times out of number also with links that a car battery and leisure battery are designed completely different and due to this being the case the chargers are also designed differently supplying different pulse rates of charge. If the input charge is too fierce it will buckle the internal lead plates and when the plates in time eventually touch you get a short circuit and that's when the battery is well and truly had it's day.



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You might find a 75ah battery a bit on the weak side for a mover!  It is uaually recomended that a minimum of 85ah be used!

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