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04/9/2011 at 9:03am
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Always had a fire extinguisher and blanket in the van. Never use them thanks goodness.

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04/9/2011 at 9:16am
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Quote: Originally posted by FionaW1971 on 21/8/2011
Quote: Originally posted by CatieB on 21/8/2011I bought I fire extinguisher when we bought our van recently, but I am ashamed to say I haven't got round to fitting it yet....something I really must do. It came with the bracket but I wondered how to fix it to the wall as being a novice I am concerned about putting holes in the caravan wall. Any tips please  
We are the same we have an extinguisher and a fireblanket in the kitchen but at the moment they are 'freestanding' as we are scratching our heads as to how to fix them

Same here. Mine travels in the cupboard until I get where I'm going and pitched. Then it sits in a corner by the door. As long as you can get at it easily, it's fine and heavy enough to be freestanding without falling over.

I also have a carbonmonoxide alarm which also sits on the floor out of the way.

You could always use sticky backed velcro if you didn't want to screw holes. B&Q do some heavy duty stuff.


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04/9/2011 at 10:20pm
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"I also have a carbonmonoxide alarm which also sits on the floor out of the way."

A carbonmonoxide detector is probably better placed nearer the likely source, such as heater or cooker, and higher up as the CO is likely to be hotter than the surrounding air and will therefore rise up.


04/9/2011 at 10:35pm
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Can't light a decent fire these days in a fire bucket. It was OK when they made them of steel, but these plastic ones.....


04/9/2011 at 10:59pm
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We always have a bucket of water available - never had to use but would rather have it in case!


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05/9/2011 at 9:41am
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Quote: Originally posted by hereward on 04/9/2011
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"I also have a carbonmonoxide alarm which also sits on the floor out of the way."

A carbonmonoxide detector is probably better placed nearer the likely source, such as heater or cooker, and higher up as the CO is likely to be hotter than the surrounding air and will therefore rise up.



Duly noted, and thanks for the advice! I always thought CO was heavier than air, therefore it was better at floor level! I site it near to the fridge when using it on gas; when on EHU I just put it up out of the way on a shelf. So where is the ideal place to site it?

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05/9/2011 at 11:30am
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i fitted a new CO detector and the information given was about 5.5 feet at least four feet from a cooking appliance.would not be without it.

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Quote: Originally posted by nov02 on 04/9/2011

We have a  fire extinguisher by the door in the caravan, I did once bring up the subject of having a fire bucket but OH said if the caravan/awning was on fire no bucket of water would save it !!!!!!!!



Agreed, but multiple all ready full buckets may help prevent the fire spreading. Unlike waiting around while a suitable container is found and then filled.


05/9/2011 at 5:32pm
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I once had to deal with a fire in a caravan (not mine I hasten to add) not pleasant so I wouldnt be without extinguisher, bucket and blanket

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05/9/2011 at 7:30pm
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 got a new extiguisher in june as our last one was just going out of date did have a normal red fire bucket but it went walk about so now have  a nappy bucket with lid we fill when doing anything like bbqs or just have it in the awaning filled with water its funny becoues its a nappy bucket nobodys taken it i wondre what they think is in it lol. i will ahve to get a carbone monoxid alarm before next seson as we use the fridge on gas quiet a lot

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05/9/2011 at 10:01pm
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One of the first things I did when I bought my first caravan a few months back was to get an extinguisher, fire blanket and combined smoke/Carbon monoxide detector.
I've always liked to be as safe as I can be and considering how little they cost it's a no brainer.
Never considered a fire bucket though, I can't recall it being mentioned in many essentials lists.



05/9/2011 at 11:07pm
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As an exfirefighter I wouldnt advise anyone against having extinguishers or blankets but I would stress that a smoke detector is much more important. It will let you know about a fire at its very earliest stage ( burn the toast to prove it to yourself!!) allowing you to get out and call the fire brigade.

I would be very wary of an untrained person trying to fight anything but the very smallest fire in something as combustible as a caravan. Get you and your ,loved ones out, shut the door and call the fire brugade.

You can always get another caravan.

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06/9/2011 at 11:09am
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we are members of a small caravan club and one of the rules is a" full "firebucket must be outside the caravan at all times.Ok 1 bucket would not do much good but several could certainly help......We also carry a fire blanket,fire extinguisher and first aid kit.....hope  we never have to use them


06/9/2011 at 12:26pm
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Get you and your ,loved ones out, shut the door and call the fire brugade.

yes agree fully.we also have two smoke alarms,can be a pain making breakfast.

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Quote: Originally posted by michael on 06/9/2011
Get you and your ,loved ones out, shut the door and call the fire brugade.

yes agree fully.we also have two smoke alarms,can be a pain making breakfast.
Yes get out for a real fire but if you are cooking and the pan starts to go up as you are there, then it is easy and straightforward to throw over the fire blanket and then get out!!      Could save lots of damage.  Same applies to those tales on here re bbq being knocked over.  The trouble with having fire fighters inside is that you can't get to them if a stray spark lands on your awning (when you are outside ) or unattended cooking goes on fire so that is when you would not even attempt to tackle.  Similar with dodgy wiring in the night really.   At the end of the day it depends on the fire and your safety as to whether you do anything but if you have nothing to fight fire with then you have no options even with little fires


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Hi

I m not sure I agree thatt is always easy to throw a blanket over a developing fire correctly and safely. I ve seen blankets used that have knocked a chip pan over and spread the fire ( and this has left unignited gas escaping .

My point was only that if you have a smoke alarm it doesnt get to the point in the first place so noone has to take any risks.

If you are going to use an extunguisher all I d ask is how sure you are of;

How to operate it.
Once operated can it be stopped
What is the extinguishing media inside the extingusiher and on what fires is it useful and in waht situations would it make things worse?

Years ago in the UK we had colour coded extingushers eg Red for water, black for carbon dioxide, cream for foam etc

The EU made us go to red as the only colour so do you know what is in it and what you can use it on?? Could you put water on a fat fire or expect CO2 to extinguish a grill pan?? What if its full of dry powder and you destroy the carvan interior?? How about those containing aqeuous film formimg foam; happy you know what to use it on??

Even barbeques are hazardous if its the fat thats on fire and you throw a bucket of water at it. The water and fat will not mix and you could disperse flaming fat everywhere.

. I ve spent hours trying to get the gears on my bike running right, taken it down to a professional mechanic and he has it sweet as a nut in minutes.

A firefighters job looks easy because he makes it look easy; just like most people do whatever their trade. Im not saying its brain surgery; only that theres more to it than you may think and I d emphasise again- a well maintained smoke alarm will make all the above irrelevant because it detects smoke particles that are too small to be even visible ie before you even have a developed fire. If in doubt, get out, stay out, get the fire brigade out.







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