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Subject Topic: Locking wheel studs. Anyone got them?
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20/9/2011 at 11:19am
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Greetings,

I am considering fitting a locking wheel stud to my pride and joy but hitting the buffers as far as sourcing the item.

Has anyone out there fitted locking wheel studs and if so where they obtain them.

I think I've established that mine are M12 x 1.5 but thats as far as I've got. When I compared the stud from the van with one at a car accessory shop even the length of the stud there seemed a little long.

  



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20/9/2011 at 11:47am
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see alko site if you have alko chassis.or BPW chassis will need a supplier of same.

http://shop.al-ko.co.uk/

for size

http://www.leisureshopdirect.com/caravan/chassis/product_27309/wheel_bolt_m12_for_alko_chassis.aspx



 



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Why not try giving these a call or email them - SAS products.


20/9/2011 at 1:02pm
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Any caravan accessory shop should be able to sell you some. especially your local Lunar dealer

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I just got mine removed as I didn't have the tool to remove them. Different vehicles have different length studs, so I am sure there will be a set out there that will fit a caravan. At a pinch, you could get studs that are too long and cut them down with an angle grinder.

Whether there is any point to them is another matter. I got mine off as quickly as the standard wheel nuts once I hammered a 14mm socket over the end of the stud. I would have thought a wheel clamp would be of far more benefit.


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Milenco do not make wheel nuts for anyone else...Yet they come in a pack of 4. Milenco may not make wheel nuts for someone else, but it looks like someone else makes wheel nuts for Milenco. The same manufacturer must make the exact same set of studs for a car too. Why else would they only be available in a pack of 4?


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I have a Lunar and did quite a bit of hunting for some and found out that the vauxhall ones are the exact fit !
Purchased some (new) genuine Vauxhall ones from ebay £10 delivered !
Have worked a treat !!

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20/9/2011 at 10:41pm
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Be very careful fitting third party wheel bolts as you have no way of checking if the spec is the same or better than the original caravan bolts. Bailey are a prime example where they did a recall to fit 'special' bolts to reduce the chances of wheels falling off. For the additional security that they offer (very little) I have my doubts about their worth and would feel happier with a decent wheel clamp covering the heads.

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21/9/2011 at 7:28am
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The fact that wheels have been falling off due to OE bolts shouldn't cast suspicion on aftermarket locking bolts.  I have heard no major stories of aftermarket bolts causing problems and any security is better than none.


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Brian, because the number of people using non OE bolts s reasonably small it is likely that you would not hear of any problems, but how many of the aftermarket bolt suppliers would give a guarantee that they meet or exceed the specific OE manufacturers spec and cover any insurance claims due to bolts not being to spec.

As has been mentioned above the locking bolts can be removed in seconds by almost anyone with a socket set. I would still rather have a heavy duty wheel clamp that covers the bolts. On my unit I have Alko wheel locks on nearside and clamps on offside (Bulldog and heavy duty Millenco).   

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look in baileys shop.Not Cheap........

https://www.bailey-parts.co.uk/Catalogue.aspx?CategoryID=0

 

https://www.bailey-parts.co.uk/Product.aspx?PartNumber=2140049

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'As has been mentioned above the locking bolts can be removed in seconds by almost anyone with a socket set. I would still rather have a heavy duty wheel clamp that covers the bolts. On my unit I have Alko wheel locks on nearside and clamps on offside (Bulldog and heavy duty Millenco). '

All security devices can be overcome (whether alko, milenco or bulldog), its just a question of making it harder for thieves.  The only one that can't be overcome seems to be the jsb hublock.  Its quite strange that you think manufacturers are supplying wheel locking bolts that are not up to specification.  On what do you base this?

As for getting them off in seconds, auto express got an expert to try in tests on various types  The best type were very secure and a simple socket would get you nowhere.  See test. 



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Brian, I did not say that they were not up to spec, I did however ask how many would be prepared to guarantee that they were up to spec. I think we will agree to differ on this issue.

At least the ones from Bailey come with the safety warning - "Set of Four Locking Wheel Nuts for Alloys with Socket only 1x to be used on each wheel ***NOT TO BE USED ON UNICORN MADRID, VALENCIA OR ALMERIA***" which is more than the aftermarket ones from a local auto accessory shop would.


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Quote: Originally posted by birder99 on 20/9/2011
Be very careful fitting third party wheel bolts as you have no way of checking if the spec is the same or better than the original caravan bolts. Bailey are a prime example where they did a recall to fit 'special' bolts to reduce the chances of wheels falling off. For the additional security that they offer (very little) I have my doubts about their worth and would feel happier with a decent wheel clamp covering the heads.


Bear in mind though that you will only be changing one bolt. Even if it were to fail (which is incredibly unlikely) the other 3 or 4 would remain in place. You should however bear in mind that with the silly spanner required to fit the locking studs it is darn near impossible to correctly torque them.


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Quote: Originally posted by brianconwy on 21/9/2011

'As has been mentioned above the locking bolts can be removed in seconds by almost anyone with a socket set. I would still rather have a heavy duty wheel clamp that covers the bolts. On my unit I have Alko wheel locks on nearside and clamps on offside (Bulldog and heavy duty Millenco). '

All security devices can be overcome (whether alko, milenco or bulldog), its just a question of making it harder for thieves.  The only one that can't be overcome seems to be the jsb hublock.  Its quite strange that you think manufacturers are supplying wheel locking bolts that are not up to specification.  On what do you base this?

As for getting them off in seconds, auto express got an expert to try in tests on various types  The best type were very secure and a simple socket would get you nowhere.  See test. 




May also be worth considering what you would do if you were to lose the socket though. Especially if you only realise it is missing when you are on the hard shoulder with a puncture.



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