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07/10/2011 at 3:07pm
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Does anyone know the best mastic/sealer to use on a roof skylight thanks .
                 xx Gill


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sikaflex is best.

flex 512 Caravan
74 Purpose-designed Adhesive and Sealant for Caravans, Motorhomes and Trailers
Order no.: SIKA512 Price: £ 7.49

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lawrence pics

here are some pictures of when I replaced a skylight)



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07/10/2011 at 3:15pm
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good to

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thanks alot looks like i will be getting Silkaflex 512 Caravan sealant xx Gill


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Sikaflex are generally "bonding" adhesives and 512 is one of these. For bonding jobs, ie those requiring structural strength, it is second to none.

Its totally unsuitable for bedding down a caravan skylight if that is the work you intend doing to the skylight.
It will make a great job of both fixing and sealing the skylight but if ever you had cause to remove the skylight it would require cutting off at the bond; very difficult even where the bond can be accessed to get in the likes of a cheese wire, sheer butchery otherwise.

The skylight is made of a plastic prone to UV light degradation and some time in the future it could have to be replaced. Its not a component that would be expected to outlive the caravan, unless the caravan was in its latter years.

Really you need a none setting mastic for this type of task which will be available from your caravan accessory shop. You can break away items fixed with these products and use white spirit to clean off any residue.


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Quote: Originally posted by JTQU on 07/10/2011
Sikaflex are generally "bonding" adhesives and 512 is one of these. For bonding jobs, ie those requiring structural strength, it is second to none.

Its totally unsuitable for bedding down a caravan skylight if that is the work you intend doing to the skylight.
It will make a great job of both fixing and sealing the skylight but if ever you had cause to remove the skylight it would require cutting off at the bond; very difficult even where the bond can be accessed to get in the likes of a cheese wire, sheer butchery otherwise.

The skylight is made of a plastic prone to UV light degradation and some time in the future it could have to be replaced. Its not a component that would be expected to outlive the caravan, unless the caravan was in its latter years.

Really you need a none setting mastic for this type of task which will be available from your caravan accessory shop. You can break away items fixed with these products and use white spirit to clean off any residue.



Sikaflex is a lot easier to get off than this post suggests.

Sikaflex is what the caravan manufacturers use to seal skylights - not a good idea to use non-setting mastic on a part that relies for it's fixing strength on the sealant


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07/10/2011 at 6:24pm
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Take a look at this rooflight project from Wizards repair site, probably a useful reference for the intended job.
See here.

Or even this site too which details a re-seal of a bathroom rooflight.

Both projects illustrate the use of mastic tape type sealant.

Post last edited on 07/10/2011 19:26:02

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Quote: Originally posted by Rune Caster on 07/10/2011
Quote: Originally posted by JTQU on 07/10/2011Sikaflex are generally "bonding" adhesives and 512 is one of these. For bonding jobs, ie those requiring structural strength, it is second to none.

Its totally unsuitable for bedding down a caravan skylight if that is the work you intend doing to the skylight.
It will make a great job of both fixing and sealing the skylight but if ever you had cause to remove the skylight it would require cutting off at the bond; very difficult even where the bond can be accessed to get in the likes of a cheese wire, sheer butchery otherwise.

The skylight is made of a plastic prone to UV light degradation and some time in the future it could have to be replaced. Its not a component that would be expected to outlive the caravan, unless the caravan was in its latter years.

Really you need a none setting mastic for this type of task which will be available from your caravan accessory shop. You can break away items fixed with these products and use white spirit to clean off any residue.


Sikaflex is a lot easier to get off than this post suggests.

no it isnt!!!



Sikaflex is what the caravan manufacturers use to seal skylights

no it isnt!!!


- not a good idea to use non-setting mastic on a part that relies for it's fixing strength on the sealant

yes it is





i agree with what the first poster said with regards a bedding sealant as opposed to sikaflex,
if a part is removable or at any stage in the future may have to come off dont use sikaflex


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Quote: Originally posted by sheffgrow259 on 07/10/2011
Quote: Originally posted by Rune Caster on 07/10/2011
Quote: Originally posted by JTQU on 07/10/2011Sikaflex are generally "bonding" adhesives and 512 is one of these. For bonding jobs, ie those requiring structural strength, it is second to none.
Its totally unsuitable for bedding down a caravan skylight if that is the work you intend doing to the skylight.
It will make a great job of both fixing and sealing the skylight but if ever you had cause to remove the skylight it would require cutting off at the bond; very difficult even where the bond can be accessed to get in the likes of a cheese wire, sheer butchery otherwise.

The skylight is made of a plastic prone to UV light degradation and some time in the future it could have to be replaced. Its not a component that would be expected to outlive the caravan, unless the caravan was in its latter years.

Really you need a none setting mastic for this type of task which will be available from your caravan accessory shop. You can break away items fixed with these products and use white spirit to clean off any residue.

Sikaflex is a lot easier to get off than this post suggests.

no it isnt!!!



Sikaflex is what the caravan manufacturers use to seal skylights

no it isnt!!!


- not a good idea to use non-setting mastic on a part that relies for it's fixing strength on the sealant

yes it is




i agree with what the first poster said with regards a bedding sealant as opposed to sikaflex,
if a part is removable or at any stage in the future may have to come off dont use sikaflex



Well all I can say is it's your caravan and I ain't likely to buy it thank goodness

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Quote: Originally posted by G7ACU on 07/10/2011
Take a look at this rooflight project from Wizards repair site, probably a useful reference for the intended job.
See here.

Or even this site too which details a re-seal of a bathroom rooflight.

Both projects illustrate the use of mastic tape type sealant.

Post last edited on 07/10/2011 19:26:02



In that case both are wrong!

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Quote: Originally posted by Rune Caster on 07/10/2011
Quote: Originally posted by G7ACU on 07/10/2011Take a look at this rooflight project from Wizards repair site, probably a useful reference for the intended job.
See here.

Or even this site too which details a re-seal of a bathroom rooflight.

Both projects illustrate the use of mastic tape type sealant.

Post last edited on 07/10/2011 19:26:02


In that case both are wrong!


no they are not stop making yourself look daft


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Quote: Originally posted by sheffgrow259 on 07/10/2011
Quote: Originally posted by Rune Caster on 07/10/2011
Quote: Originally posted by G7ACU on 07/10/2011Take a look at this rooflight project from Wizards repair site, probably a useful reference for the intended job.See here.

Or even this site too which details a re-seal of a bathroom rooflight.

Both projects illustrate the use of mastic tape type sealant.

Post last edited on 07/10/2011 19:26:02

In that case both are wrong!

no they are not stop making yourself look daft



So tell me why amateur caravan repairer must be right in using the incorrect mastic while the professional companies are totally wrong to use sikaflex?

You are obviously a person who knows everything but you don't seem to have ever stripped a caravan - especially the roof lights



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Sikaflex512 or any other polyurethane sealant/adhesive should only be used for permanent applications, ie the sealing of body panel joints. it cannot be dissolved once set, only cut with a knife.

For resealing awning rails, fitting rooflights etc, anything that might need to be removed, non setting sealant should be used. However in practice when repairing an old caravan thats only likely to have a life of a few more yrs then using Sikaflex512 is not a bad idea as it has better adhesive quailties.

Sikaflex make various types of industrial sealants both setting & non setting.


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Quote: Originally posted by Rune Caster on 07/10/2011
Sikaflex is what the caravan manufacturers use to seal skylights - not a good idea to use non-setting mastic on a part that relies for it's fixing strength on the sealant


Hymer did use non setting sealant when they made my van though they used polyurethane bonding products extensively but only where appropriate.
I assume this indicates that they at least bothered to read the Product Data sheets and selected the correct stuff for each task?

Nor is my smaller rooflight dependent on bonding for its fixing; like all others I know this is clamped, sandwiched to the roof via an internal frame, thus only required sealing.


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rune caster yet again you are embarassing yourself, you have obviously had a look at a few projects on here and made an assumption that sikaflex should be used for everything which is totally wrong,

and as for you saying i have never stripped one and dont know what im on about etc etc,
if you have a look at wizards site under the fixed it club section you will see that i have,
it is you that is giving wrong advice out and doesnt know what you are on about!!

all the best............


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Come on guys lets not fall out over this please, i think you both agree to disagree and should leave it at that, for the record after reading the post and thanks to all who have posted we have decided because our van is 15 years old we will use Sikaflex we intend to keep the van for two more years so we think Sikaflex is best for us .
                                                 xx Gill .



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