We bought a 2004 swift caravan from a main dealer last June fully serviced.
On getting it ready last week ready to go away I checked everything was working and checked the Tyres.
It appears that the tyres on the van are the origional tyres that Swift put on in 2004 dated 2003. this means they were 8 years old when they sold us the van.
I have spoken to the dealer who said they looked O.k.
They have now come off and new ones fitted.
What I am warning about is even if you buy from a main dealer you need to check the tyres yourself as we have had a lucky escape.
You trust the dealers but they rearly can not be trusted
Did you have your new tyres balanced as well? When they manufacture new caravans they don't balance the new tyres before it leaves the factory so it's not only the dealers that are guilty of turning a blind eye to tyres but also the manufacturers as well. There have been occassions where people have bought a new caravan and have had problems with stability only to find out that the cause was down to road bounce due to unbalanced tyres on the wheel rims. They had both tyres re-balanced which then solved the problem. When I bought my caravan from the dealer I changed my tyres anyway because road bounce can cause more problems than just instabilty, it can cause bolts and screws to come loose and also judder the whole caravan which in the long term won't do it any good whatsoever.
you always need to check the checker quality control I had a tyre lose some tread on the first journey 2 weeks after a service new tyre required needlesstosay I was young and believed most people did what they were supposed to do now I fuss and don't care if they think I fuss I have been with my dealer for about 15 years now and he knows I fuss but guess what? the jobs are done properly - and I still check 5 years for a caravan tyre then change it the tread will be perfect but age starts to decay the rubber and when you start to see it it can be too late so pre-emptive stikes are best - bit like health checks
we have queried this topic about how long tyres last before they need changing, as long as they have suffered NO damage or punctures they should last 8 years before they need replacing and this was from a service engineer and repair specialist. Ours are 5 years old and are showing No signs of wear or tear and are inspected every yaer on servicing.
atb Bill
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stopped at a french checkpoint and they did the tyres and recommended 5 years as well given the implications, 5 years is my limit, even if they look ok belts and braces for me and then some string don't want my underpants to show!!
very good point bigdave50, this is what we have found with our 2005 Bailey. The tyres are the ones fitted since new as they are dated 05 and the van came from a dealer.
Did The Caravan Club Towing and manoevering course last year, and the guys that ran the course stressed the importance of changing the tyres on a caravan when they are 5 years old, regardless of the fact they look ok or not.
Good advice i think, better to be safe and not sorry.
Our tyres are 6 years old this month I will use them for another year they are in good condition the van is always stored on axel stands so no weight on the tyres most of the time I keep them covered to protect from sunlight My motorbike has tyres that are 8 years old and are still in good condition as usual with caravans there is alot of scaremongering yes people suffer blowouts but the cause is more likely to be under inflation or overloading rather than tyre degradation due to age
Quote: Originally posted by bill + kay w on 02/5/2012
we have queried this topic about how long tyres last before they need changing, as long as they have suffered NO damage or punctures they should last 8 years before they need replacing and this was from a service engineer and repair specialist. Ours are 5 years old and are showing No signs of wear or tear and are inspected every yaer on servicing.
atb Bill
5 years for me is long enough as they degrade from uv and dry out giving cracking on the sides and in between the tread.our spare had never been out of the front locker but it still got changed.if one blows it can damage the floor and the fridge.
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The tyre manufactures use to recommend 7yrs for caravan tyres, the Caravan Club promptly knock a couple of years off of that. Pretty soon owners airing on the cautious side deleted another two! so then 3yrs started being banded about on caravan forums as the 'safe' limit...I wondered if it would eventually get down to months?!
Manufacturers now don't give time limit, they say they should be changed when inspection dictates, that's careful inspection off the van, not a kick or two.
To my mind that is the most sensible advice, given you know the history? and, together with tyres that are not being run at their maximum load and ALWAYS balanced
As for a dealer then selling a van on 8yr old unbalanced tyres of unknown history and most likely at their maximum load...damn disgrace
Sorry phil76, have always kept my tyres at correct pressure before every journey and never overloaded as we had three pieces of precious cargo with us in the car. Yet a couple of years ago whilst touring Lincolnshire we had a blow out, luckily at low speed just before we joined the motorway causing two and a half grands worth of damage to the van. The tyres were 5 years old and had just gone through a professional service (allegedly) along with the van 3 weeks earlier, so its every 4 to 5 years for me from now on, ( saves on underwear too)
Hi fleetwood99 I accept what you say and agree in general the 5 year guideline is sensible but it seems caravan tyres (which after all are either car or light commercial tyres)have a very short lifespan compared to fitting to other vehicles my van that I use for work has rear tyres that are 9 years old and still fine There must be other factors that come into play are tyres fitted to single axel caravans at their upper limit of safety does sitting for extended periods under load without moving strain the carcass of the tyre I don't know could it be parahnoia creeping in and in reality caravan tyres are no worse than tyres fitted to other vehicles for punctures and blow outs as Gary ( arc systems) says maybe we could end up with tyres only fitted for a matter of months Mind you anything that can reduce those bowel opening moments would be very welcome
The problem we have is that the tyres have been on since new, and visually they look in perfect condition. No bulges or cracking etc but as we purchased the van second hand we have no way of knowing the history of the tyres. Have they been left on in the Winter and stood for a long time? Did the previous owner have a habit of hitting the kerbs ?
For peace of mind I am going to get them changed and try to look after them. If only I could find some at a decent price !
Changed my Tyers recently because i was concerned about there age, got e tyers to come to my storage compound to fitt 4 new tyers .
Got talking to him about this recomendation about changing at five years and he agreed that was what they recomendation, i asked him about the condition of my old tyers that where 9 years old and he said that they where still good and servicable.
Although sevicable i was happy to change, my van has always been stored indoors and i put it down to that.
One thing i would say, if you have a motor mover fitted dont buy open block tred tyers. The rollers slip inbetween the blocks of tred, go for a closed tred and get more grip