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08/5/2012 at 9:55pm
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Hi all. I hope someone can help to calm my nerves. On my way to buying my first caravan. Going to see a Bailey Ranger 4 berth year 2000 tomorrow. The owner seems nice enough and is very confident that my inspection will not uncover anything that may put me off. And I do believe him. I will have a few hours alone in the van with my Dad with the electrics on to check everything.

However, can anyone shed some light into what document I require from him that will give me 100% ownership? I heard it was the log book. When I enquired whether he had it, he said he has nothing called a log book. However, he did say that he has all documents related to the caravan going all the way back to when it was first sold as new. Receipt of purchase ,service book etc.I think he might have it but doesn't know it. What should the log book say? Sorry for the silly question!

Next question, he mentions that he has a standard hitch, ie not alko, and a stabiliser. Will there be any benefit to upgrading to an Alko. Also there is no hitch lock, should I get one? Is it easy to install?

The last question I have is regarding CRIS. Everyone says check all the plates match and that the last number is correct for advertised date of manufacture. But then what? Is there anything that you all might then do with the numbers? Do I have to contact CRIS?

I apologise for all the questions! I have read so much here and other forums and know everything to check for, these are the only areas that I'm still a little unclear of.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Richard



08/5/2012 at 10:20pm
 Location: lancs
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Didnt get a log book with mine but the original sales documents will have the cris number on them. Check the numbers on them match the caravan and if in doubt ring cris to check present ownership. Google and take the number with you.

As for Alko hitch thats down to personal choice(easy to  fit) but would say hitchlocks are essential these days.

The most important thing you need to take with you is a damp meter, after all you are talking about a 12 year old van, even vans a couple of years old are showing signs of damp.

Good luck, hope all goes well.....



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08/5/2012 at 10:37pm
 Location: Staffordshire
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1.  Seller may seem like a nice bloke but you should always remind yourself that it's a case of "buyer beware" and check everything, and I mean everything, especially for damp (biggest problem with caravans).

2. There is no "log book" like you get with a car.   What I think you mean is the CRIS Registration document.  I think I am right in saying that CRIS registration is not compulsory and it's done through a company not the DVLA Swansea.  The number etched on the windows should match the number on the CRIS paperwork and if the seller has had the van from new, and it's a relatively new caravan, it should be CRIS registered.  If his name and address don't match the paperwork then obviously don't buy it.

3.  Through CRIS you can also check to see if there is outstanding finance on the van (for a fee, don't know how much) and whether it has ever been stolen.

4. Hitch? Alko or not?  Everyone has their own preference.  Personally I like the Alko as it's much easier to operate i.e. taking it on and off.  They are expensive to buy through.  Hitchlocks are easy to fit if you have an Alko hitch with matching lock, it simply slots in over the top of the hitch and has a key to lock it into position.  Others are a little more fiddly and there is normally some kind of padlock arrangement which can be difficult to fit and/or remove.

If your seller has a service history and the van is still within warranty, find out if he has had it dealer serviced as I think Bailey will allow you to transfer the remaining warranty if he has.  There is also a fee for this.  A careful read of any service history is essential.  Has he replaced the tyres?  When was it last serviced?  All things to take into account.  It may also reveal any problems in the history of the van.

Don't be frightened about checking for damp in all the suspect areas i.e. around all windows, anywhere there are corresponding seals on the outside (especially awning rails), under seats, in corners, i.e. everywhere you can access.  Open and close all the cupboards and windows (sounds simple but these things are expensive to repair) and try all the blinds/fly screens (also expensive to replace). 

If you are in any doubt at all just wak away.  There are lots of vans out there.

If you do buy the van, you then have to send off the documents to CRIS with their fee to change the ownership details to your own.

Hope this is of some help...I'm no expert but buying caravans I have found to be something of a nightmare (we have viewed some which were described as "mint" which turned out to be absolute nails).

Good luck.  Let us know how you get on.



08/5/2012 at 10:40pm
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Sorry just noticed the van is a year 2000.   In which case, warranty will have run out long ago.


09/5/2012 at 12:46pm
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Main danger with the voluntary caravan register we have in this country is that caravan could have been stolen several owners ago but current owner could have bought 'van in good faith but not attempted to update with Cris. If you buy caravan & then update with Cris you will lose 'van which will be property of insurance co. that paid out on original theft. If you wanted to keep 'van, ins co. would offer you 'van at current market price & your only recourse would be to claim off previous 'owner'.

To avoid this scenario you need to check 'van on Chris website Cost £14.95 before parting with money. The older caravan gets, the less likely new owners are to update Cris.


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09/5/2012 at 1:06pm
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Being of "plastic" front and rear I would invest a lot of time making sure its free of any stress cracking; it should well pre-date being in the worst reported batches but be still very worth a careful look.


09/5/2012 at 1:54pm
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Check out my post here....seven posts down...you may find this info of assistance...

The link to the manual on caravan tyres has changed since that post. It is now here

all the best

Phil



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