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20/8/2012 at 2:55pm
 Location: Shropshire
 Outfit: Sterling Eccles Sapphire 2007
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Hi

Following a disastrous camping trip to Barmouth over the jubilee week (and experiencing all the weather that Wales could throw at us) we have purchased the long wished for caravan; a Sterling Eccles Sapphire 2007.

It will occupy a permanent pitch on a site on the Llyn Peninsula so will not be towed and will overwinter at the site.  Unfortunately it is not covered storage.

Having read a lot of horror stories about damp I made sure I bought from a reputable dealer and insisted that I saw the damp meter readings before I committed to buying the caravan.

However , we are really worried about damp.  Other than having the caravan serviced regularly is there anything else we could/should be doing to ensure the caravan stays ‘dry’ and provides us with many more years damp free use?

We have just had our first couple of weeks’ holiday in it and we spent the whole time with big grins on our faces, wish we had bought one years ago!



20/8/2012 at 3:12pm
 Location: Near Alton Towers
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Welcome to the forum, I understand your concern but the 'dampness' issues usually fall into two catagories.

1) the one that involves the outsides of the van letting water get inside.

2) the other is moisture in the air condensing inside.

I take it its the first catagory that worries you?

Dave

 



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20/8/2012 at 3:19pm
 Location: Shropshire
 Outfit: Sterling Eccles Sapphire 2007
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Hi,

Thanks for the welcome.  We are mainly concerned about what we can do to ensure water doesn't get in.

I am assuming that as long as the vents etc are not blocked then moisture in the air condensing inside the caravan should not be too much of a problem?

Thanks

Andy

 

 



20/8/2012 at 4:12pm
 Location: Derbyshire
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Andy, I understand your concerns and we were completely paranoid at first, especially as our first van that we purchased from a dealer with a damp warranty ended up having major damp issues.

Our second van however is fine and over time, we have become far less paranoid about damp. The problem is you read horroh stories on the internet, but nobody ever posts about having a van with no damp.

I would of thought with your van being on permanent pitch will be far less susceptible to damp than one that is bounced down the road every few weeks.

I would just keep any eye all the rails and joins and make sure they all look in good condition. Might be worth having your own damp meter to check a few times a year as well as having an annual service.


20/8/2012 at 5:36pm
 Location: Cardiff
 Outfit: 1992 Bailey Senator 4000
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Keep an eye out for the cheap moisture capture things in discount shops, I have one of these in mine and will get few more as spares and put front and back over winter. Incredible how much moisture they take out of the air.

Nice extra peace of mind for very little outlay (can get for £1 each if you shop around) and also leave your van smelling really nice.

Have read other posts on here where people have used salt and cat litter as well.

Also worth leaving locker doors open when in storage and if you read the books it says to put the cusionso n their side, some take them home over winter so air can get around everywhere.

Most important thing is to enjoy your new van and not worry about things that may never happen :-)

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Carl :-)


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20/8/2012 at 6:02pm
 Location: West Mids
 Outfit: Swift Ace Statesman & X-Trail 2.0
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In my opinion (and this has been aluded towards by Clever's reply), as your van will be resident on a site I reckon you're at a much lower risk of water ingress than those of us who tow. I'm certain that build quality and flexing panels while in tow are a contributor to water ingress.

Although you're obviously concerned, don't be paranoid (easier said than done). Providing the vents are allowed to do their job, the moisture within the air in the van shouldn't be an issue either.

The suggestion of the moisture traps has pro's and con's IMO; they will always catch the natural moisture from the air but this in itself can give a false impression that you have damp in the van.
Mrs G7 used some of these when we bought our first van and she had some concern with what she perceived to be excess moisture/damp, but having convinced her to not bother with them, it's quite evident that no damp is present, plus no 'smells' in the van from moisture either.
The choice is yours on this subject.

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20/8/2012 at 6:10pm
 Location: Cardiff
 Outfit: 1992 Bailey Senator 4000
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Good point about the traps Paul. I just use and enjoy the fact its taking moisture out and don't worry about how much etc.

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20/8/2012 at 6:27pm
 Location: flint north wales
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the worry time will be during the winter months if still on site ,barmouth is a coastal town and living in north wales i know that the winds from dec through to march can be rather wicked putting it mildly .our house has nothing in front of it till you reach ireland ,so i consider myself a bit of a expert on it .
   if its going to be on site all winter a decent waterproof cover would be first on my list plus a good relationship with the site owner/manager to let you know asap if any damage is likely to have happened or might happen .frequent visiting is also important during the winter to ensure that its all o.k .we lost a swift due to not checking it through the winter .
    water getting in the smallest crevices on the van and freezing are a nightmare so take note of all the above ,also don't forget to de-commission it before the first frosts ,i.e drain ALL internal water .


20/8/2012 at 8:51pm
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Quote: Originally posted by taffy1970 on 20/8/2012
Good point about the traps Paul. I just use and enjoy the fact its taking moisture out and don't worry about how much etc.


I didn't intend my comment on your idea of traps as a critisim Carl, as that wasn't intended (don't think you read as that way anyway); but just wanted to highlight that traps can, and do give a false impression of moisture in the van, which folk interpret as a being damp problem.

Worthwhile comment from The Black Fox too, although not sure on the practicalities of "frequent visits" for the Op from Shropshire, so best first line of defence will be an absolute thorough drain down and proper preperation for the winter.

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20/8/2012 at 9:36pm
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i belive that by putting uneven stress on the bodywork of a caravan can cause flexing of the joints allowing water to get in, i have watched people winding down the legs of a caravan on one side or corner to lift the van to level it off, if you look under the caravan you will notice that the legs are attatched to the floor of the van and not the chassis, it is this induced twist in the body of the van that puts stress on the joints and eventualy lets the water in.
but thats just my opinion, im sure the good people on this forum will give you lots of good advice.

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20/8/2012 at 11:52pm
 Location: Morecambe
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I`ve often wondered why caravans leak at all . . .cars used to, but modern production methods put paid to that.  Now, caravans use this flexible mastic stuff in reasonable quantities.  And, after application, a few years later, the damp is noticed.  Surely it shouldn`t get in?  If the stuff`s flexible and watertight, I can`t imagine anything other than truly shocking working practices could cause this. . . . perhaps a highish modulus silicon sealant of decent quality would be better . . .

I will be finding out soon.  I`ve got rotten wood in the front of my van . . . but no damp inside.  Lucky me . . . . ha ha going away in 3 weeks, hope to fix it before then.  WHAT fun!



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21/8/2012 at 8:05am
 Location: Bristol
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On the point of moisture traps etc, I frightened myself once by using a dehumidifier. I was given one and thought it might be a good idea to put in the caravan just to see if all was well.

For three days the collection bucket was full each day, obviously I was worried but then DUH!! realised I was dragging air in from outside. So no point in using them, unless you seal all the vents, which is probably nigh on impossible.



21/8/2012 at 8:09am
 Location: Shropshire
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Hi all,

Many thanks for the all the info!  Very reassured. 

Great advice in here which I will follow....

Note to self, next time you start panicking about imaginary problems with the caravan; don't read horror stories on the internet, ask here first!




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