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15/7/2013 at 8:48am
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Quote: Originally posted by DrivenMad on 14/7/2013The 2 Tops - I agree with you, if they do go down the MOT route. However if they choose to exempt caravans from the MOT and other member states adopt the MOT then this is where problems may be.
Not quite true, DrivenMad. If the UK exempts our caravans, this has to be honoured under EU law - similar to the "80/90" speed roundels that you see on the rear of continental caravans where the train weight of the outfit exceeds 3,500kg.
We do not have to have these stickers on our vans when visiting the mainland EU. But, if our vans do exceed 3,500kg, we do have to adhere to related speed limits.
I think the worst scenario would be, as in the case where we now have to carry our original V5, that the mainland EU governments could apply a condition that there must be carried with the van proof that it had been serviced within the 12 month period that included return to the UK.
Random stopping by the police would then occur; almost guaranteed, because mainland EU seems to have a much greater number of police officers.
Another example: When I bought a new car with the tow ball ready fitted, it had only the dashboard bulb-failure light to show that my van indicators and road lights were working.
I met with dire warnings on this forum, so I asked the local police. They said I would be prosecuted if I was stopped and found not to have the 'required' trailer indicator warning light, or audible signal.
Contacting the DfT for advice, I was informed, and in writing, that, because the operation of my system had been type-approved in another EU member state, it was legal in all EU member states, including the UK.
Bertie.
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Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 15/7/2013
Why have a caravan serviced annually if you only use it once or twice a year?
Surely bi-annually would suffice. Also reading in this forum the number of horror stories about wheels falling of caravans proves that servicing does not make it safer.
You are not obliged to service a motor vehicle annually so why have a caravan serviced annually?
For safety, which means habitation IN the van as well as roadworthiness, realistically a caravan must be serviced periodically. Since caravans do not have odometers, a set annual service was probably initiated by caravan manufacturers. Bi-annual may well be technically acceptable, but who is going to change it? When considering the state of the roads, and how a caravan can be subjected to quite violent shaking, is it unreasonable for manufacturers to insist on annual service, at least where bodyshell warranties are in force?
I personally believe that sideways forces (yawing) may cause addition compressive action by the studs on alloy wheels, thus reducing the actual torque load. For this reason, I check my wheel-stud torque between reaching a substantial journey and setting off again. I have found some need to reset the torque during the first year of our new van with alloy wheels. This effect probably reduces as the resistive strength of the alloy increases due to compressive forces. I may be wrong, but I cannot think of any other explanation.
Regarding motor vehicles, owners ARE obliged by law to keep them in roadworthy condition. They are either subjected to a variable regime (usually where annual mileage is high) or an annual service. And, of course, they are subject to an annual MoT.
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