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Personkevin-t
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Hi Folks,

 Recently bought me a coachman laser twin wheeler, its got motor mover fitted,it also came with two alko wheel locks which have never been fitted!

 I can see why now!

Does anyone have one of these units with mover fitted? if so how do you jack it up for fitting of the alkowheel locks, and leveling???

Would a bottle jack suffice? air jack? trolly jack? where is the best jacking point??

Have sent a couple of emails RE: E P hydraulics, however around 3k seems steep17

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin


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I jack my twin axle between the axles itself on the chassis using a trolley jack however with a mover fitted you'll struggle but I'd have thought a small bottle jack would fit.


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PersonBill Terry
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If i need to jack the van, I put a trolley jack between the wheels on to the chassis.

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I normally only fit one (on the rear wheel) and use motor mover to line it up I don,t use that jack that came with the locks and if I have to I use the car jack
The other one is nearly brand new, I also found insurance that only requires the fitting of one and a hitch lock


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I don't own a twin axle myself but have seen it done with a Coachman Laser when attending a rally. However, it has to be done with two people, one driving the towcar and the other standing by to insert the wheel lock. They way they did it was to leave the caravan hitched up to the towcar, put two hand made wooden ramps in front of each wheel (just on one side) and then pull the caravan up the two ramps with the towcar PAST the locating position of the lock and then apply the vehicle handbrake. The driver doesn't fully release the vehicle handbrake but eases it so the caravan very slowly rolls backwards till the position is located. The person fitting the lock negotiates with the driver when to stop, the lock is then fitted and key locked into position, the rear wheel chocked and the caravan handbrake applied. Hope this information helps but it doesn't always happen first time so the process may have to be repeated till the target is met but as they say, practice makes perfect.


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Personbrianconwy
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That is fine for fitting a lock on one axle but you would then have to jack the van for the second lock. Alko locks are too much hassle for twin axle vans.


PersonAl+Mel
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Quote: Originally posted by brianconwy on 06/3/2014
Alko locks are too much hassle for twin axle vans.


We haven't had a problem with them. Motor move so the rear one locates, securely wedge the other wheels including the jockey wheel (make sure it can't swivel) disengage mover. Using the axle to chassis mounting plates for jacking points, jack up, locate second Alko Secure, jack down. The front wheel only has to clear the ground by a whisker, so not too much of a heavy lifting op.


Personbrianconwy
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I used to just jack the van and then fit both alko locks but it was still a faff. Especially if it was raining and the ground was muddy. If you are jacking then a mover isn't of any extra benefit.


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If its got a 4 wheel mover the trolly Jack between the wheels is the answer but means having to carry a large jack around with you.
We have a twin axle with the Two wheel mover on the front wheels and use a kojack with lifting brackets behind the rear wheels as in the picture.
As for the 4 wheel locks do you forum members actualy go through all the bother to fit them every time you move your van.


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Personkevin-t
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Phew!!!!
It's not going to be easy this one.
Thanks guys for all the info. Keep the ball rolling,someone will have an easy solution, ime sure.

Kevin


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Yes, sell it and buy a single axle van.


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Quote: Originally posted by kevin-t on 06/3/2014
Phew!!!!
It's not going to be easy this one.


It is easy! Honest!

It takes 5 minutes max. We do it as the first job every time we move the 'van, levelling at the same time. We don't even think about it now, its just a part of setting up.



Personkevin-t
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Quote: Originally posted by Al+Mel on 07/3/2014
Quote: Originally posted by kevin-t on 06/3/2014
Phew!!!!
It's not going to be easy this one.


It is easy! Honest!

It takes 5 minutes max. We do it as the first job every time we move the 'van, levelling at the same time. We don't even think about it now, its just a part of setting up.

Thanks for the reply's.

what jack do ypou use? between the wheels? how do you level side to side?

 

Kevin


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I have had a pair of alko locks and bulldog max, but both are slower to fit than alternatives. It was harder for us because our van is on a slope. We insure with CC and they don't even insist on wheel locks.


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Quote: Originally posted by kevin-t on 07/3/2014
what jack do ypou use? between the wheels? how do you level side to side?

Kevin



For the last 2 years we've used a cheapo Silverline 2 ton trolley jack which is still going strong. This fits between the wheels and we level side to side as we go, using short lengths of decking. We often use fully serviced pitches and most of these have been pretty level side to side.


Personkevin-t
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Quote: Originally posted by Al+Mel on 07/3/2014
Quote: Originally posted by kevin-t on 07/3/2014
what jack do ypou use? between the wheels? how do you level side to side?

Kevin



For the last 2 years we've used a cheapo Silverline 2 ton trolley jack which is still going strong. This fits between the wheels and we level side to side as we go, using short lengths of decking. We often use fully serviced pitches and most of these have been pretty level side to side.


Thanks for all your replys guys, think ive got the jist of it now!!

Have a bottle jack, and a trolly jack. Will have a look at which fits best, is there any where special i should NOT place the jack.

Please excuse my ignoreance here, Not only new to the twin wheeler, i only took the single wheeler out a handfull of time!! A real novice so to speak.

 

Kevin



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