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19/7/2014 at 5:44pm
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I have already figured out that the Tyre pressure for our van should be 42 PSI.

Normally this is classed as cold inflate pressure.

My problem is we leave for a 3+ hour run to Belgium on Thursday so I need to check the pressures before we go however it's 35-36 degrees by 10am here atm so how will this effect what I should pump the Tyres up to?


19/7/2014 at 7:12pm
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This American site gives some useful information.
I used a TyrePal for the first time on my holiday three weeks ago and I was surprised to see the pressure increase from 60psi to 69psi as the tyre temperature increased.

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The cold pressure is before the wheels have done any travelling that day. Not the general temperature outside.

Why do you need to check it the morning you leave? If its checked now, its not going to be a lot different come Thursday, unless theres a slow puncture on one of them.

In which case you are better doing the checking a day or two before, as you dont want to be finding a problem an hour before your trip.


19/7/2014 at 7:22pm
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I'm checking the morning we leave because I already know there are no leaks in the tyres and the van is parked with it's tail end basically in a bush and the legs down.

Putting the legs back up is a major pain because of the bush so I don't want to put them up, check pressures and then drop them back down only to have to put them back up on Thursday.


20/7/2014 at 8:55am
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You dont need the legs up to check your tyres. The pressure inside is the same whatever weight is on them. (and it should be the whole van - not suspended on the legs.) As long as you can access the wheels, thats all you need. Check the spare as well.


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tyre pressures will vary a bit depending on conditions.. they will never be exactly the same all the time..

deciding on a pressure will always be a bit one way or the other.. its impossible for it not to be..

trog


20/7/2014 at 11:12am
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ok well i have just gone and put 42 PSI in each tyre thanks for the advise


20/7/2014 at 1:45pm
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Quote: Originally posted by John4703 on 19/7/2014 I was surprised to see the pressure increase from 60psi to 69psi as the tyre temperature increased.



yes they can increase a lot, last weekend i checked my car tyres, the offside which was in the sun was 4 psi higher than the nearside which was not in sun.

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20/7/2014 at 5:13pm
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You will be lucky to get a tyre pressure gauge accurate within 5% (2PSI at 40PSI)


20/7/2014 at 6:57pm
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Quote: Originally posted by larkspeednl on 19/7/2014

Putting the legs back up is a major pain because of the bush so I don't want to put them up, check pressures and then drop them back down only to have to put them back up on Thursday.



This reads as though you have it sited off the wheels, raised up off them by the legs. Please tell me I got this wrong!

Your van would be fine with the legs up as long as the jockey wheel is down and locked. All you need to do is chock the wheels and put the handbrake on. However, if you are popping in and out with things, best to have the legs down to steady it up and take the weight of people stepping in and out.

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Quote: Originally posted by josey60 on 20/7/2014
Quote: Originally posted by John4703 on 19/7/2014 I was surprised to see the pressure increase from 60psi to 69psi as the tyre temperature increased.


yes they can increase a lot, last weekend i checked my car tyres, the offside which was in the sun was 4 psi higher than the nearside which was not in sun.



So if the wheels/van is in the shade, then all will be the same?

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21/7/2014 at 12:28am
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Quote: Originally posted by larkspeednl on 19/7/2014
I'm checking the morning we leave because I already know there are no leaks in the tyres and the van is parked with it's tail end basically in a bush and the legs down.

Putting the legs back up is a major pain because of the bush so I don't want to put them up, check pressures and then drop them back down only to have to put them back up on Thursday.



Please don't tell us that you jack the van up off the wheels using the corner steadies? They are steadies, not jacking points. They steady the van, not jack it into the air! Please mention what you do before you sell it on.
A caravan sits on three points, that is the two or four wheels and the jockey wheel. The steadies are for, well, steadiying the caravan, not actually lifting it.



21/7/2014 at 8:49pm
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caravan tyres should never be left in strong sunlight for any length of time as the ultra violet light effects the tyre walls which cause blow outs on motorways etc.                       If Iam sited for any lenght of time and one side gets strong sun light each day I cover tyre with abit of canvas or sack never plastic. other side is protected by awning shade I have seen side wall blow outs where tread is good as new,   even in storage caravan tyres should be covered or shaded if out side. thats why it is recommended you change your tyres every 4/5 years regardless how much tread is left.


21/7/2014 at 9:01pm
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boy do people jump to conclusions.

At no point did I say I was jacking it up on the steadies. One person suggested it and everyone else ran with it.

But even just using them as steadies the way they are intended they still take some of the weight and therefore reduce the weight on the wheels.

if you put down your steadies before the van is packed for travel any weight you add to the van goes on the steadies not the wheels.

That means to get an accurate reading of pressure you want the van loaded and sitting fully on it's wheels


21/7/2014 at 9:34pm
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Quote: Originally posted by naturlist123 on 21/7/2014
caravan tyres should never be left in strong sunlight for any length of time as the ultra violet light effects the tyre walls which cause blow outs on motorways etc.                     


An interesting point but then I wonder about my car, it sits in my driveway with one side getting far more sun that the other. It can sit unmoved for weeks and do the tyres suffer?
My caravan has one tyre exposed to sunlight, the other is against a fence. I wonder if I should buy a reflective cover for that wheel. Anything that prevents damage seems worthwhile to me.


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Quote: Originally posted by larkspeednl on 21/7/2014

But even just using them as steadies the way they are intended they still take some of the weight and therefore reduce the weight on the wheels.

The steadies shouldn't take any weight at all. You only lower them sufficiently to just touch the ground and prevent the caravan from rocking backwards and forwards when people walk inside. The weight of the caravan is all on the wheels

if you put down your steadies before the van is packed for travel any weight you add to the van goes on the steadies not the wheels.

No, it goes on the wheels. However, if you load the caravan significantly then the tyres will obviously 'spread' which in turn may put pressure on the steadies but I would suggest if you are loading your caravan to that extent it will be very much overloaded

That means to get an accurate reading of pressure you want the van loaded and sitting fully on it's wheels



The weight of the van doesn't make any difference to the air pressure inside the tyre because the air is spread evenly throughout the tyre. Pressure on the tyre at one point simply expands the tyre elsewhere...or I'm talking a load of codswallop




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