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04/2/2015 at 11:20am
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No, Miro on modern caravan includes just gas bottle & EHU lead, anything else is extra. You can get your Mtplm increased up to design weight of axle but if this then takes your outfit over combined MAM of 3.5t then you will need B+E licence to tow of course.
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04/2/2015 at 12:47pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Billy.... on 04/2/2015
No, Miro on modern caravan includes just gas bottle & EHU lead, anything else is extra. You can get your Mtplm increased up to design weight of axle but if this then takes your outfit over combined MAM of 3.5t then you will need B+E licence to tow of course.
Just to add I think that this was only introduced from about 2012
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04/2/2015 at 1:37pm
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Yes the common standard for Miro was introduced in 2011. Originally it was just unladen weight, ie empty caravan & this why older caravans appear to allow much higher payloads. Then before 2011 'mass in running order' ie unladen but including basic equipment was interpreted differently my different makes, but never included awnings or motor movers.
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04/2/2015 at 2:06pm
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Scroll down to the bottom of the link: http://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/helpandadvice/technicalhelp/towing/weight-and-payload-guide/ Then download the excel spread sheet, use the correct year of caravan for miro, then put in the weight of your caravan, all load items and be suprised how much payload is used up and how much over your mtplm!!! Final check on weighbridge. I carry my awning in the car boot.
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04/2/2015 at 3:27pm
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Just keep to the essentials. I keep the awning in the car, dogs in the boot area. awning on back seat to balance out.
Anthing remotely heavy and essential...... like wine, tins, wine, beer, goes into the footwells of the car and we keep the caravan as light as possible. We dont bother with gas as we use hook up. We realised this last year when we never bothered refilling our gas bottle. We were just carrying around an empty cylinder. So thats gone. We also check our nose weight every trip and make sure our towball not overloaded.
You will be surprised at how much stuff you really do not need to enjoy a lovely holiday in a caravan.
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04/2/2015 at 6:20pm
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If you are carrying a lot of gear you can always load up & take the outfit to a weighbridge. Then go back & weigh car on its own.
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04/2/2015 at 10:02pm
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See how you go, have a good clearout, go through every upboard and try to remove some stuff. We have managed to gain 20kg by removing loose fit carpets, drain down water, calor lite bottle , good clearout etc.
Also we bought a lightweight tunnel awning and a suncanopy, which saved a huge amount of weight.We mostly use the Caravanstore Sun Canopy, if it rains we sit in the van.
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05/2/2015 at 10:38am
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Your basic calcs are correct, but as said weighbridge is only sure weigh as the MIRO can be out by a few percent so you could be starting at wrong figure doing it that way anyway.
As above if possible consider a porch awning as they save loads of weight compared to a full one. Our 390cm long Kampa is 24kg from memory and is large enough for us as a family of 4
Putting everything on the back seat is not an option for many if you have a family of course!
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06/2/2015 at 10:45am
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Quote: Originally posted by Billy.... on 04/2/2015
If you are carrying a lot of gear you can always load up & take the outfit to a weighbridge. Then go back & weigh car on its own.
Not forgetting that when the caravan is hitched up to the car, the noseweight is transferred to the car and is not on the caravan axle.
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We always weigh ours with the caravan hitched to the car as if stopped this is what VOSA will do. Generally they check the load rating of the tyres and if exceeded then they may weigh whole outfit and check that train weight is not exceeded.
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