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madspaceangel

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I posted about our awning dilemma before. The doremas zip busted open and needs completely replacing so we got a Bradcot as an emergency measure.

I am going to send the Dorema for repair but we go away again soon so I was going to get some storm straps for the Bradcot (camping IoW cliff top site) the website says they go inside the awning and attach to the frame. Am I being thick but straps are suppose to hold the canvas down from up and side gusts and the awning poles (and additional storm poles if used) are to protect from downward gusts? If a the canvas is down secure using storm straps the awnings not going anywhere, but if all you secure is the frame the the canvas could take off?

Our dorema has clip on straps so frankly I just don't understand how the bradcot ones are supposed to work?

tango55

14/4/2015 at 9:34am
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I have had experience of both Bradcot and Dorema awnings and yes the two individual storm strap clips on the Dorema are built into the canvas. I didn't have a storm strap for the Bradcot but have seen one complete storm strap that fits directly over the top of the canvas so it holds both the poles and canvas down as it's the canvas that will lift in windy weather. What you have to beware of though is that in windy weather the strap rubs against the canvas and in time it can wear the material away, that's why I think Dorema incorporated the storm clips into the material so this doesn't happen.

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Octavia4x4

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When the wind does blows, 65mph gusts, the storm straps do work well and also alongside guy ropes or storm straps attached to the awning frame which keeps that still, plus extra guying points on the canvas and also a storm pole inside on the frame. Mud flaps are also pegged down to stop wind getting under.

Using both in very strong winds, straps attached to canvas and staps attached to frame is a good idea.

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FionaW1971

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You can't put a storm strap externally on a Bradcot because of the waterproof UV coating on the roof gets rubbed away with any friction. However as the poles thread through the canvas, as long as you have the frame strapped down internally with the storm straps then the awning will be safe. We strap down the front corners and put two centrally, carefully located so centre doors can still be used. We just use the corkscrew type pegs like people tether dogs to. The internal system is very effective and withstood some real storms, we are on our third Bradcot now.

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I tie a strap over mine, and use those seat belt padded covers to prevent it chaffing the fabric. Its seen MANY a storm too!

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yep have done the same with no problems.

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I always put mine,(2 individual straps) over the poles on the inside, one each side
That way the strap can not work its way off if there is lots of movement in the high winds.
if your confident that this will not happen then ok use on the outside.
the click in straps shound be ok if again you are confident they will not pull out where they click in??
my awning stays up for 6 monthes of the year so i do not take any chances, having seen many others blown away creating all kinds of damage to the sides of the caravan.
I have never had any pegs pull out because i use extra long pegs and ground anchours,
Just out of interest to anyone with click in straps my click in straps are 3 ins + longer when they are wet??/
then shrink back to original size when dry.
chocolate tea spoon comes to mind.

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madspaceangel

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Thanks for all the advice. I got the bradcot straps and everything held fine despite some serious shaking about in gusts of wind in Brighstone IoW last month :-)

Couldn't find anywhere externally to add any guy ropes like in Octavia4x4s picture we just made sure all the tabs along the bottom of the awning were firmly in.

Sadly it leaked like mad all along the top front edge. Going to try some seam spray on it and see what happens on the next outing (if it doesn't work we shall have a wet two weeks in wales!)

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Storm straps on the inside, that way they can not damage the material or in extreme weather come of.
wherever you put them the canvas can still blow off, they do not hold the canvas down, your pegs do that,so if the pegs are not secure the canvas will blow off, straps or not.
As you can see from this video (even if a storm strap was fitted) if the pegs pull out the canvas can blow up and in this situation over the canvas they could come off
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madspaceangel

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Hmmmm I wonder if the previous owner used an up and over strap on the outside and that's why that front edge is leaking? It's coming in all along where the roof poles meet the canvas and where the little front flap is stitched onto the awning.

Our dorema used to leak all along the awning rail unless we popped £2 coins into the awning rail at several points! Think it was just awning rail awning incompatibility with that one.

We couldn't quite work out how to arrange the pole for the annex on the secondhand bradcot one, there was just a set of poles to make an inverted U shape and that was it.

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