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PersonKayJay4
28/4/2015 at 7:16pm
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We have been looking to get our first van and we liked the layout of the Bailey Ranger 510/4. At our local reputable dealer we found a 2007 one with £3000 off and no warranty.
The reason, we are told, is that there is an area with 40% damp caused by a seal leak by the dinette window. No damp anywhere else.
The dealer has said they will reveal the window for us.
The thing is - this van is pristine. Not a scratch, shiny chassis, the plastic sealing is still on the carpets and the bunk ladder. The oven has never been used, only the hob. The dinette had never been made into a bunk. One previous owner.
Do we buy it? Surely we could dry out that one foot square patch?.
Any advice grateful received for us newbies.


Personbilly
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The only thing more certain than death & taxes so ukcs tells us is that all Baileys will eventually leak. Presumably it will be better to buy a leaker cheap than enter the world of pain that is getting ripped off buying a full priced Bailey that is claimed to be dry?

So if you can fix it yourself then go for it.


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Personjanus
28/4/2015 at 7:30pm
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A one foot square patch that is damp at that level implies that you will find major damp in the whole panel around it. You can resell the outside and make sure no more water gets into the structure but somehow you have to completely dry out the whole front panel or the water that is in the walls will slowly rot it away. Since the outer wall is now damp proof and the inner wall has a damp proof lining on it the only way to do this is to remove the inner wall and leave the structure open to the air for several weeks. This is probably why the price is do attractive and there is no warranty.

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Personmark26
28/4/2015 at 10:48pm
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I have a brand new van and its been back 4 times in the first year. Ask for 12 month warranty or go else where.

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Personbarney68
29/4/2015 at 1:23am
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Billy, why will all baileys eventually leak ?

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Persongeoff+emmy
29/4/2015 at 9:06am
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Ours leaked in much the same way we had a new window seal fitted new wall board (after leaving to dry out) total cost £600 but now dry as a bone..


Personpeterws
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Don't buy any caravan that has damp manifest. There'll always be more lurking and your dealer offering NO guarantee is a dead giveaway. He wants to see the back of it.

Offer him £500 if you're the handy type.

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Personbilly
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Quote: Originally posted by barney68 on 29/4/2015
Billy, why will all Baileys eventually leak ?

Because ukcs tells us they will.

But the more serious point being made is that unless your top price 8yr old caravan has full service history of annual main dealer service & damp checks then you have little idea of the problems that could be there. If one is capable of diy caravan repairs then buying the caravan at very much below book price as a 'fixer upper' is a good option.

The op should screw down price as much as possible, the dealer will not give it away though as there is always somebody who will buy it & flog it on from ebay.

I suppose we can call this dealer 'honest' because he has not tried to hide the fault on the caravan but he is happy to sell on his 'problem' in the good knowledge that some buyers may well be just after a quick profit by selling on caravan.

Post last edited on 29/04/2015 09:35:37


PersonAL53HX
29/4/2015 at 9:55am
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If the dealer has knocked 3000 off the original asking price and,the rest of the van is good,it shouldn't cost that much to remedy,I would ask a service engineer to inspect it for other damp/faults, with the dealer's permission,if he's reputable he wont have any objection


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29/4/2015 at 4:53pm
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Should we buy? Definitely not, I would stay clear.


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PersonFrannyvan
29/4/2015 at 7:00pm
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I agree with AL53; pay to have checked independently and go from there.

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Personlazydave
29/4/2015 at 7:34pm
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I bought a 2005 caravan nearly 12 months ago. It was a dealer trade sale with no warranty. The van had water ingress but was tidy and had a recent service. Dealer allowed us to fully inspect.
I have since removed the awning rail and resealed. I have also removed and resealed a roof vent.
If you can carry out any repairs then go for it. Work on the premise that there are a lot of caravans for sale with damp. With this one you know what you are getting at a bargain price.

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Personsuperbbird
29/4/2015 at 7:48pm
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Do you want a 'van to just hitch up and go?
As said before if your willing to resolve the damp problem, get it inspected and go for it, I would. Don't bother if you don't have the time, DIY skills or money.


Personzivadog
29/4/2015 at 10:32pm
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i would go over it with a damp meter myself before deciding,you can get good ones from B&Q


Personbessie500
29/4/2015 at 11:23pm
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How much is the van?? Dealer is saying its 3k off it might not be it could show an inflated price to start with to make you thin that it got 3k off

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30/4/2015 at 9:22am
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I bought a van like you describe, I was mainly bullied into it as was a committee purchase. The van was leaking in the rear rails at the back, the board wasn't spongy but I was getting 30+ readings up the back end.
The van is, IMMACULATE. Everything is as new, a credit to the former owner.
We had traveled the length of the country looking for the perfect van and we all just clicked with this one.
The dealer said he'd reseal the rails and I though fair enough, my last van was a festival starter van with damp when I bought her and I re sealed and fixed her up and got 8 years out of her. None of this is easy I will admit!
Sold without damp warrenty too.
Outcome has been the dealer as far as I can tell ran Sika round several rails (I removed one and the mastic had failed at the end so now know this is what he's done). I missed the rotten floor in the corners, but this hasn't isn't too bad, and he neglected to reseal the rails causing this.
I love twiddling with vans and the van is 10 yo so intend to do all the rails anyway so hasn't been too much of a problem.
Van is sealed for now and drying out well, if you can do the work and are happy to do so go for it. But I would accept that most of the damage is hidden and allow for that.
Good Luck! I wouldn't be with out mine now!



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