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moorlander999
18/5/2015 at 6:49pm
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We purchased our used Bailey from a well known local dealer in 2013. It was advertised as little used....and was/ is in perfect condition.
My wife and I are a little OCD about it and it has wanted for nothing.
It hibernates in a heated garage during the winter !!

Just got it out n the last couple of days and have started cleaning it for our hols this year...

I started checking the tyres, which appear brand new still with moulding beads etc.....then I checked the manufacturing date codes.....never thought to do this as the tyres look brand new...
Manufactured week 47---- 2002 !!

Two new tyres to be fitted very soon ( spare renewed by me last year )

So the moral of the tale is don't let appearances be deceptive - check the dates .


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It's probably the most overlooked thing when viewing any caravan or trailer actually. I didn't check mine either when I bought it in 2010 but I intended changing them anyway as the steel wheels looked really grotty so changed both the wheels and tyres.


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Persontrog100
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when i hear tales like this i maybe think things i am not supposed to think.. 13 year old tyres.. 8 trouble free years of use beyond the 5 year figure..

i would be prepared to lay money on those new looking tyres being good for a few more years yet.. but as i say i do think the wrong things.. :)

i am not saying dont change them,, i would not dare.. just speaking my thoughts.. he he

my low mileage truck is going in for two new front tyres tomorrow.. its tyres are 10 years old.. the back two looking good and only being less than half worn can stay on for a few more year yet.. he he

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Its worth knowing that the EU demanded the removal of certain PAH's from the tyre construction 5 years ago or so (Aromatic Oils) because of environmental issues, this now has the effect of the tyres going off quicker, so chancing it could be a lot more risky than in the older years....


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What is the actual age of your caravan?

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The idea that tyres only last 5 years is silly IMHO.

Where is the evidence and legal back up for all this stuff?

From the Michelin website.

Tyres have no predictable life. It does’t matter when the tyres were made. Tyres age even when not used, or if only used occasionally. There are many factors that will affect the life of the tyre such as temperature, maintenance, conditions of storage and use, load, speed, pressure as well as driving style. These will have a great impact on the length of service life you can expect from your tyres.


PersonKenny2105
19/5/2015 at 4:30pm
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Yes that's true, no Tyre maker will put any age as a legal definite period its advice given by the Tyre industry that state tyres should not be sold of older than 5 years, That said the manufacturer only covers the Tyres welfare for 5 years, and will not place any warranty on it after then, make of that what you want, the legal implications are endless.


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Just had the mobile chap in to do a chassis service. Mine are two years out of date. However the walls are cracked now (they were ok last year) so that's that, replacement required - hopefully not too many £££'s, but I would hate to risk a blowout.

What's more his assistant told me that the studs were the wrong ones (not for alloy wheels which I have)... he could have told me that the last time he came, two years ago! Since then I've been out loads so what's wrong with the studs I have???

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19/5/2015 at 4:58pm
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Best practice is Check them regularly inspect for casing distortions and tread separation on wall edge to welt and between the tread, use 5 years as a guide to when they need more attention..


Studs ? or Wheel nuts? You can have the wrong seats on the nuts/bolts, not meant for Alloy wheels?

Post last edited on 19/05/2015 17:08:36


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Quote: Originally posted by Kenny2105 on 19/5/2015
Best practice is Check them regularly inspect for casing distortions and tread separation on wall edge to welt and between the tread, use 5 years as a guide to when they need more attention..


Studs ? or Wheel nuts? You can have the wrong seats on the nuts/bolts, not meant for Alloy wheels?

Post last edited on 19/05/2015 17:08:36


Yes, wheel nuts I think. Them that holds on the wheels. Young lad said they were the wrong ones.. I've been going places on them for five years or more!


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Quote: Originally posted by Brian(StAlbans) on 19/5/2015What is the actual age of your caravan?


Apologies for delay in responding ...I have been at work

The caravan is a 2003 model, purchased from Bailey dealer in 2013..one new tyre fitted prior to collection but I never checked the others closely as they looked brand new.

I was informed that the one previous owner, from new had kept the van indoors with wheels off apart from a 2 week holiday each year and then was serviced and out away.
We have had a full service last year at the same dealership and it was never mentioned by them. I assumed all was ok.

It was only when I got the van out of our garage this week that I noted small cracks around the base of the treads that I then decided to check the manufacture dates and was surprised at the year of production being 2002, so they must be the original tyres on the offside and spare. I can only assume that the near side was replaced after being kerbed (??)
So tomorrow going to local tyre fitters to have two shiny new tyres fitted, with all three balanced.


So indoor storage, away from uv light saves tyres....


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Forgot to ask....is the wheel nut torque settings for steel wheels still 88nm or has it increased.

Standard wheel nuts fitted.


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Quote: Originally posted by moorlander999 on 19/5/2015
Forgot to ask....is the wheel nut torque settings for steel wheels still 88nm or has it increased.

Standard wheel nuts fitted.


Alloy wheels generally have a different torque setting, but this should be marked on your van plate, assuming the wheels where not added at a later date, if they are wheel nuts for steel wheels, check the wheel at the base of cone for any cutting effect into the nut seats.


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Quote: Originally posted by moorlander999 on 19/5/2015
Forgot to ask....is the wheel nut torque settings for steel wheels still 88nm or has it increased.

Standard wheel nuts fitted.


My 1991 Swift Challenger has it listed as 8kg-m in the manual, which internet conversion suggests is 78nm. Have I got this wrong?


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Alloys on my van 85 lbs torque setting

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The wheels on mine are steel.

I went to the tyre fitters. Two new tyres, fitted and balanced all three ( spare done FOC)

Fitter wasn't happy about torquing up the wheels to 88nm, he stated that they should be at least 120nm and that 88 was too low. Potential for things going wrong.

Very thorough, two of them checked the torque settings .

New shiny balanced tyres, very happy, great price.

I have taken photo of the date code and will be calling to see dealer next week.



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