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Subject Topic: Caravan Spare Wheel Advice - Brilliant!
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PersonTravellinPam
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we just traded in our little old Elddis for a new (to us) Bailey. We are thrilled to bits with the new caravan, it has everything we need and more. We were planning a trip this weekend to try it out until we discovered - it had no spare wheel. argghh.   v disappointed as we don't want to go without one and didn't know if we could find one on time let alone how much it would cost. Well to cut a long story short: came on the forum, searched for spare wheel topics, saw ones describing rear wheel carriers, texted husband at home to go look, and there it was! We can go now. Over the years I've had loads of useful and helpful advice from ppl on this forum - none that's saved me so much money before tho! thank you forumfriends. x

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PersonTaylor56
15/10/2015 at 4:27pm
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If you are putting it underneath on a carrier make sure the carrier is well maintained .
Ours was seized up and took a long time to get the wheel out stuck on M62 1am in the rain with no lights.
I had to remove the whole carrier.
Ours is inside now and would never put one underneath again.


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PersonOpensauce
15/10/2015 at 4:49pm
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It's better to practise spare wheel removal `before you actually need to & you can check the tyre pressure at same time.


Personjjgderbyshire
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I had a Vermont for a few years and found it to be a superb caravan, the inboard water tank a very useful feature. I'm sure you'll enjoy it and not wishing to put a damper on your purchase (pun intended) - I had to have a front window, front rail and both awning rails re-sealed just as it came out of the five year warranty. Good luck!

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Great to here your pleased with your caravan, enjoy it whenever you can and yes your right loads of good tips and problems solved on this forum

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Personmickeyb
16/10/2015 at 7:59pm
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Had the spare for our Bailey Arizona on a carrier but found it difficult to access (would be even worse with a flat) so took it off and carried it in boot of car. It lived in the shed between trips..Mick


PersonLobeyDosser
17/10/2015 at 1:20am
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Quote: Originally posted by Taylor56 on 15/10/2015
If you are putting it underneath on a carrier make sure the carrier is well maintained .
Ours was seized up and took a long time to get the wheel out stuck on M62 1am in the rain with no lights.
I had to remove the whole carrier.
Ours is inside now and would never put one underneath again.


New spare wheel carriers are much improved on the older models.
Alko have taken onboard all the previous complaints about the sticking and seizing and they are all now nylon bushed and cannot get grit into the sliding bits.

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PersonTravellinPam
22/10/2015 at 10:21am
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It is a bit of a flaff to undo - husband says :) but seems to come out easily enough once you get the hang of it.

I do worry about damp jjg as I've read all the reports on here. It is 8 years old which means making good any damp would be down to us. We're philisophical about it.   We'll be watchful of the front and rear panels and awning rail which seem to be the problem areas. All is good at the moment. we got a great end of season deal on it so can stand a few repairs if need be - and I know where to get the best advice on those!



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VangoMan02
22/10/2015 at 1:15pm
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Stored in the front locker in the space made for it.
I check the tyre pressure when checking the other two on the van.

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PersonSamP
22/10/2015 at 9:14pm
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VangoMan02 says - of spare wheel storage...

"Stored in the front locker in the space made for it. "

Ours is kept in the front locker - but only whilst the van is stationary.

Leaving such a heavy item in the front locker makes our van much too nose-heavy so I always move it into the van & place it on the floor right over the axle when towing.

Our van seems to be naturally nose-heavy, so I have to juggle things to keep the nose-weight down to 70kg.

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Quote: Originally posted by SamP on 22/10/2015
Ours is kept in the front locker - but only whilst the van is stationary.
Leaving such a heavy item in the front locker makes our van much too nose-heavy so I always move it into the van & place it on the floor right over the axle when towing.
Our van seems to be naturally nose-heavy, so I have to juggle things to keep the nose-weight down to 70kg.


Yes........that's what I'm going to do!
Same problem - wheel in front locker. Got the van a few weeks ago and first trip was to a site nearby so didn't bother about noseweight. Just been away for a few days and felt the van was nose heavy, so I made up a jig today to go on bathroom scales and weighed it.
It was just over 100kgs!!!
So wheel out and replace gas cylinder with calorlite tomorrow and try again.

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I think some caravans are designed to keep the spare in the front locker as mine is, as well as the gas cylinder.
Some are not as mentioned but mine has a specific slot/lock for the spare wheel and gas bottle.

No issues with nose weight probably due in part to sensible loading of caravan and it tows without issue.
I seldom check nose weight now as I load things inside the van the same way each time..more or less..

I have in the past had a couple of vans that had issues with noseweight when spare was in front locker and hated keeping it in the floor of the van or boot of the car, so much easier in the front locker where it stays.

I have never understood manufactures that have a designed place for the spare in front locker but not usable on some models due to noseweight issues?

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PersonLobeyDosser
23/10/2015 at 2:26pm
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3 vans ago, mine had places moulded in the front locker for the spare wheel, gas bottles and batteries (2).

Only a numpty would today carry his battery and gas bottles in the same locker.

As for the spare wheel, well whether you carry it in the front locker or slung under the van has as much to do with your tow ball weight limitations as it does to do with the caravan's recommended nose weight.

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23/10/2015 at 6:41pm
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Absolutely Lobey, I just took that as a given..

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PersonLobeyDosser
24/10/2015 at 1:11am
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Our caravan manual states that the max load on the A-frame is 100kg.
Our car manual states that the max towball weight is 75kg.
We tow at 74kg.

For this reason I moved the spare wheel from its designed space to an Alko underslung carrier.

The only way I could have the spare wheel in the front locker is if the caravan was empty of gas bottles, its battery and all of our belongings.

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My recommended figures are similar to your own with spare wheel and gas bottle in front locker. I have never exceeded what is recommended, been caravanning for 40+ years.
My battery is located in a side locker near the front.

I had my spare located in the Alko underslung carrier in a previous van but as some have said it can be very awkward to get at roadside when you have a puncture.

I have noticed many vans when they are setting up and front locker is open who have spare wheel / gas bottle in front locker. Obviously can't say if they are within the weight limits but would assume the majority would be.
Not as rare as some may think.

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