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09/1/2016 at 11:00am
 Location: Teesside
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Looking at the 10 day forecast it looks as though its going to get very cold for a few days.

The 'van (parked on the drive) has Alde heating and I was wondering if there is anything like the 'frost stat' setting you get with the house central heating on the 'van heating.

Maybe I could just switch it on and set the thermostat to 10 degrees or so just to ward off freezing pipes.

I've never 'wintered' a van as they are so close to the house so we can keep a close eye on them over the winter months.

Thoughts please. Many thanks.

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09/1/2016 at 1:18pm
 Location: Sheffield
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Hi David

No need to do this as its not pure water in the pipes. It has a strong mixture of antifreeze in the pipes and will not freeze.


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11/1/2016 at 12:16am
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We set ours to 5 degrees and 1kw.

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11/1/2016 at 7:04am
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Quote: Originally posted by checkley1973 on 09/1/2016Hi David

No need to do this as its not pure water in the pipes. It has a strong mixture of antifreeze in the pipes and will not freeze.



That only looks after the inhibited water in the Alde heating circuit. As the OP states they have never "wintered" a van there are other water ladden bits and pieces at risk, such as the water side of the Alde, the taps, tins and jars of food etc.
The Alde has no stand alone frost 'stat but it's room 'stat can be set down to 5 degrees its minimum control temperature.
If not taking any wintering protection then using the Alde at 5 degrees could save you a massive boiler replacement bill, or a more tolerable tap replacement or even a messy storage cupboard to clean up.

Draining the boilers clean water side and draining the taps plus taking out food/drink containers is not too much of a chore saving the fuel bill associated with running the Alde.


11/1/2016 at 2:46pm
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Quote: Originally posted by JTQU on 11/1/2016
Quote: Originally posted by checkley1973 on 09/1/2016Hi David
No need to do this as its not pure water in the pipes. It has a strong mixture of antifreeze in the pipes and will not freeze.



That only looks after the inhibited water in the Alde heating circuit. As the OP states they have never "wintered" a van there are other water ladden bits and pieces at risk, such as the water side of the Alde, the taps, tins and jars of food etc.
The Alde has no stand alone frost 'stat but it's room 'stat can be set down to 5 degrees its minimum control temperature.
If not taking any wintering protection then using the Alde at 5 degrees could save you a massive boiler replacement bill, or a more tolerable tap replacement or even a messy storage cupboard to clean up.

Draining the boilers clean water side and draining the taps plus taking out food/drink containers is not too much of a chore saving the fuel bill associated with running the Alde.



The OP asking about freezing pipes.... but you make a valid point re leaving anything in the van that can freeze and burst. I would also never leave the van on a frost stat setting personally, waste of electricity and natures resources!

Draining the water system is easy and done by the majority before they leave site, just leave your taps and shower 'open' so the residue gets shaken out as you drive home. Done this for years as do all our friends and never a frozen pipe or tap has broken.

Also worth mentioning to drain your toilet flush tank if you haven't, there is a drain tube in your cassette compartment.


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11/1/2016 at 4:06pm
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Quote: Originally posted by checkley1973 on 11/1/2016
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The OP asking about freezing pipes.... but you make a valid point re leaving anything in the van that can freeze and burst.



The point I was making is that there are pipes other than the Alde's inhibited water pipes, and unlike those some, plus other things will be prone to freezing risks.
The most expensive by far is the Alde itself if its hot water section as opposed to its inhibited water section, froze.


11/1/2016 at 9:25pm
 Location: Teesside
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Many thanks for the info guys. I don't routinely drain the pipes as once the water is through both hot and cold it avoids that spitting business you get when you first get the van until the pipes are full of liquid and not air.

That said it lives on the drive and in 9 years we've never had an issue with water freezing in the pipes or with the Flush tank for the loo. I'd guess though that in the case of the loo the pink stuff will lower the freezing temperature of the liquid.

Think we'll put the Alde on in very cold periods at a reasonable temperature so that hopefully nothing containing water in the van will get below freezing and I'll just have to take the hit on cost.

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David


23/1/2016 at 6:05pm
 Location: Ayrshire Scotland
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Since getting the Conqueror, I haven't drained anything each winter.

On returning from my last trip of the year at the end of November, I put the Alde on at 6 degrees and it stays like that till I go away in mid January. Sorted!

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