Wonder if someone more experienced with Caravans could advise... I'm looking at doing up the caravan we recently were given, I have experience with solar panels and boats, and ultimately would like to have a panel on the caravan to keep leisure batts topped up, How do you fix them down ready for travelling? The roof is fairly sloping, or do you remove before a trip??
Thanks in advance!
Many more modern vans have bonded construction roofs, here fixing the framed type of solar panel on spacer brackets is solid enough.
However, older vans had fully floating roof outer skins and fixing to these could well invite problems. Fixing is done by bonding, and the normal framed panel needs to be well vented underneath so is spaced off the roof on brackets. If not spaced off the panel performance will be significantly reduced by the heat generated.
There are semi flexible panels that can be bonded directly, but are marketed at much more solid roofs than used on vans so their fatigue life might be an issue on a deflecting roof; they are not as efficient size for size due to heat issues.
I use a portable framed panel that stands up freestanding from the van. In transit mine pops into a cassette I made and fitted under the rear of the van.
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My panel has its own homemade "prop" so can be placed where and at any tilt that is needed or, even simply laid down flat in the summer months, the latter then means it does not need turning to track the sun.
What is important and overlooked by so many people is that shadows decimate the performance so the panel should not simply be planted onto the grass. Place the bottom edge on something that holds down the grass or lifts above it. I place a square of old ground sheet down with the panel bottom edge on a 3" x 3" section of timber off cut.
I sit my freestanding panel on a piece of corrugated plastic sheet, the type that they use on house for sale signs etc.
Its the same size as the panel so it goes into the same bag as the panel.
40 watt is the minimum if you only use it in the summer or on the continent. but if you use the van when the shorter days begin ,or go wild camping for more than a day or 2 ,I would go for a minimum of 80 watt ,preferably 100w
Quote: Originally posted by JTQU on 02/3/2016
Many more modern vans have bonded construction roofs, here fixing the framed type of solar panel on spacer brackets is solid enough.
However, older vans had fully floating roof outer skins and fixing to these could well invite problems. Fixing is done by bonding, and the normal framed panel needs to be well vented underneath so is spaced off the roof on brackets. If not spaced off the panel performance will be significantly reduced by the heat generated.
There are semi flexible panels that can be bonded directly, but are marketed at much more solid roofs than used on vans so their fatigue life might be an issue on a deflecting roof; they are not as efficient size for size due to heat issues.
I use a portable framed panel that stands up freestanding from the van. In transit mine pops into a cassette I made and fitted under the rear of the van.
I've got a 100w solid frame panel and transporting it is a bit of a pain. My roof is a non bonded skin and would love to fit it up there, but don't want to risk damaging it. (had enough problems with water ingress)
Could I ask how you constructed and fitted the cassette for transporting the panel.
Quote: Originally posted by yotanka62 on 04/3/2016
Interested in these folding ones. What would be the minimum wattage you would buy please?
We coped with a 40W freestanding panel for years. It kept the battery charged between the endo of Mach to the End of October. However I would consider that we are low users of power we don't watch much TV
Before you rush out and buy a panel remember it is only part of the answer. Is you battery healthy? You can have the best panel in the world and if your battery is no good then there is no where to put the energy that you produce. Also have you swapped to low energy light bulbs. LEDs are relatively cheap these days and save about 80% of the energy that of a conventional halogen bulb. You really need to see a solar panel as a 1 part of a three part triangle that is production, storage and consumption. If one of those links is weak then the whole thing falls over.
To answer your original question how big? As big as you can comfortably carry which for me would be a 120W folding panel which is 2x60W. Shop arround prices can vary enormously and your friendly caravan dealer is not normally the place to buy SP's economically
Quote: Originally posted by yotanka62 on 04/3/2016Interested in these folding ones. What would be the minimum wattage you would buy please?
We coped with a 40W freestanding panel for years. It kept the battery charged between the endo of Mach to the End of October. However I would consider that we are low users of power we don't watch much TV
Before you rush out and buy a panel remember it is only part of the answer. Is you battery healthy? You can have the best panel in the world and if your battery is no good then there is no where to put the energy that you produce. Also have you swapped to low energy light bulbs. LEDs are relatively cheap these days and save about 80% of the energy that of a conventional halogen bulb. You really need to see a solar panel as a 1 part of a three part triangle that is production, storage and consumption. If one of those links is weak then the whole thing falls over.
To answer your original question how big? As big as you can comfortably carry which for me would be a 120W folding panel which is 2x60W. Shop arround prices can vary enormously and your friendly caravan dealer is not normally the place to buy SP's economically
Great answer - for us still can;t justify the purchase cost of a panel as we simply don't go off EHU enough. We now have a 115ah battery in new van so that should last even longer than our old 85ah in last van for when we do rally
Still to do some of the bulbs in Coachman yet but certainly changed the majority in our last Adria - reduces the heart from spotlights above your head as a plus aswell
A friend of mine got one off ebay for £16 4.5watt for his caravan at Glastonbury week of having the cd player and lights on kept the 115 aph battery going just moved it to a different window as the sun moved and it didn't have led lights either.
I am sure bigger is better but at £16 must be worth a punt.
Quote: Originally posted by Johnnie Boy on 04/3/2016
I've got a 100w solid frame panel and transporting it is a bit of a pain. My roof is a non bonded skin and would love to fit it up there, but don't want to risk damaging it. (had enough problems with water ingress)
Could I ask how you constructed and fitted the cassette for transporting the panel.
Yes I will come back on that as just at the moment I am going out and can't spare the time, but will see what I can do for you later.