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Persondawn+dave
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I have a question.
If the rent on caravan has not been paid for some time is it legal for the storage owners to sell the caravan without the owners knowledge, what do the storage owner need to do before going ahead to sell the caravan. TIA


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You need to read the terms and conditions in the contract regarding non payment and how long you have till they can terminate the agreement as each storage site can differ. One thing for certain is that they can't sell the caravan by law unless they have concrete proof that they own it and if the caravan is still under finance then the lender still legally owns it until there is no outstanding finance on the goods.
Their future actions need to be laid down in writing as evidence as to what their intentions are and you will require this if you intend to take the case further.


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Personsaxo1
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They can legally sell it provided they follow the rules contained in the law, The Torts (Interference with Goods) Act 1977.
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Persondawn+dave
25/5/2016 at 11:34am
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There was no terms and conditions given and no contract was signed. The storage owner never got in contact with the owner of the caravan. This problem occured due to divorse of owners of caravan.

I know this because of other people who have there caravan at the same place and also have no T & C or Contract .

Post last edited on 25/05/2016 11:39:53


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The fact that there is no written contract is immaterial, however there should be some "Terms & Conditions" published somewhere.
The site owner should have written to the address held for the caravan and given them written warning of these actions, and a time limit to pay up.


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Must admit this is something I have often thought about. Two local storage areas have a couple of vans with about six inches of green sludge on them as they have sat for years. Let's assume the owners are deceased, how would that work if you cannot contact them unless it's through a medium.

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Personsaxo1
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The storage owner only needs to make every effort to contact the owners, if unable to make contact after a reasonable time they can dispose/sell the van.I
f there is any monies left over return it to the owner if they can contact them.
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Persondawn+dave
25/5/2016 at 4:09pm
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No effort was made at all as the owner of the caravan was living with me, also the storage owner knew that as I told them. The owner still has the same mobile number and e-mail address the only details that were changed was home address. O


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I bought a car from a garage where the owner didnt pay for the repairs. They had written to them giving 14 days to resolve the matter otherwise the vehicle will be sold to cover costs.

The garage said if i had any issues getting the log book then to come back and they will service the owner with storage costs as well.

If they can show proof they made an attempt to contact the owners and got no reply then it maybe hard to fight it.

What was the value of the caravan compared to the overdue amount?

If the van was worth a lot more then they should have realised a fair price and not sold it to their mate for £20 if it was worth thousands.


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Sounds like it is worth going to Citizens Advice They may refer you to some solicitors that give you 30 minutes free - then to the small claims court.   Have you ever watched "The Sheriffs are coming" on TV.

Worth watching .


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Persondawn+dave
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The caravan was worth at least 3 time plus more than what was owed plus all personal belongings inside it.


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Is the moral here to keep your rent up-to-date, or at least let the site owner know what's going on?

One pertinent fact missing is the length of time of arrears, or the amount owed.

The sympathy here seems to be with the caravan owner, but I can't think why, divorce or not, a letter or email can't be sent or a telephone call or visit made to keep the storage site owner apprised.

As a business-owner myself I know at first-hand what it's like to give people a bit of leeway only to find them up and gone one day leaving me seriously out-of-pocket.


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Our sailing club stores boats for members with an annual fee. Fairly regularly someone doesn't renew and pay the fee but the boat sits there. The club makes efforts to contact them and if they don't pay or remove the boat , the club sells it.

I bought one that way a few years back. The procedure is written in the club terms and conditions.

There is a boat there now which is heading the same way.


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Our storage facility has something like that in the terms and conditions...if you don't pay for a certain amount of time they consider the caravan abandoned and can remove it by either scrapping or selling. I would imagine they would have to contact you more than once to consider the van as abandoned...


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Quote: Originally posted by dawn+dave on 25/5/2016
No effort was made at all as the owner of the caravan was living with me, also the storage owner knew that as I told them. The owner still has the same mobile number and e-mail address the only details that were changed was home address. O


Then I suggest that instead of asking for advice on an internet forum you contact the caravan owner's solicitor first thing in the morning.

I suspect we are not getting the full and complete story here.


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I agree.
My sympathy lies with the owner of the storage facility.
I to think we are not getting the full story.
Divorce or not, it doesn't take five minutes to make contact and sort out the matter.
It's a sign of the times I am afraid.
Don't take responsibility, and them whinge when things go wrong.



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