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PersonMrs. Bonce
29/7/2016 at 6:58am
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There are 2 of us and our dog, we have a t/a but don't put up an awning, there is enough space without one.I would not like to revert to a single axle.


Personiank01
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Quote: Originally posted by navver on 28/7/2016
Twins struggle to get two Alko wheel locks on as required by insurance companies. They have to line two wheels up and end up having to jack it up to do it.

Insurance will be more expensive, some companies won't insure them.

More likely to get stolen.

Servicing more expensive

Less nose weight usually.

We have a Lock n Level to raise the caravan and it is a doddle to fit both locks on a twin axle and that is the wife's job!
In addition our insurance company are quite happy for an ALKO lock and a sold secure wheel clamp on the front wheel.


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Personmarramc48
29/7/2016 at 6:46pm
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Quote: Originally posted by chrisn7 on 28/7/2016
Quote: Originally posted by navver on 28/7/2016
Twins struggle to get two Alko wheel locks on as required by insurance companies. They have to line two wheels up and end up having to jack it up to do it.

Insurance will be more expensive, some companies won't insure them.

More likely to get stolen.

Servicing more expensive

Less nose weight usually.


It is not the case that insurance companies all require 2 Alko wheel locks to be fitted. Caravan Club will give you a discount, but only require a wheel or hitchlock to be fitted.

More expensive? Well TAs tend to be at the higher end of the market when new, so are bound to cost more to insure. Its the value that matters rather than how many wheels it has.

http://www.caravantheftalerts.co.uk/stolen-caravans

A quick look through a few pages here shows more single axle than twins being stolen.

Less nosweight? why? This is dependent upon how the van is loaded


With all due respect, the fact that more single axle caravans are stolen than those with twin axles will probably be due to the relative numbers of each that are sold.



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Excellent point.

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Personwillo2712
02/8/2016 at 3:23pm
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We had a small single axle Abbey for a few years and then needed/wanted a bigger caravan and I found a nice Compass Rallye 5 berth. Twin wheel and 1500kgs isn't a problem, with 4 kids and a Labrador I've had Land Rover Discovery's for 15 years.

But on Monday, coming back from London we had a tyre blow-out on the A1 at 60mph, and seeing the wheel-arch splinter we came to a gentle pull-over, then stop in the hard shoulder, green flag man said 'a single axle would have gone over'! Tyres were checked before we left and they're only four years old, so unlikely to be knackered, just unlucky he said. If it had gone over with my 5 year old granddaughter in the car I'd never tow again - but we're away again in 3 weeks. I know everyone has there own opinion, and in 5 years we had no problems with a single axle, but having come to an orderly stop with just three tyres I won't go back to a single axle


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not all blow outs with a single axle end in disaster. i had 1 on the M6 at 60mph on the nearside and managed to stop with no dramas.


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Its not been mentioned that if you hit a bump in the road, the leading wheel will take a full load, or almost. And the tyre would be less heavy duty than on a single axle van? Best if it isnt!

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Quote: Originally posted by diesel steve on 02/8/2016
not all blow outs with a single axle end in disaster. i had 1 on the M6 at 60mph on the nearside and managed to stop with no dramas.

Thanks for the info Steve, makes me feel much better


Personchrisn7
03/8/2016 at 1:33am
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Quote: Originally posted by peterws on 02/8/2016
Its not been mentioned that if you hit a bump in the road, the leading wheel will take a full load, or almost. And the tyre would be less heavy duty than on a single axle van? Best if it isnt!

To take almost the full load, the bump would have be so large as to compress the front van suspension almost to the point of lifting the rear rear wheel - hopefully one would spot a road defect that huge...

What is 'less heavy duty'? The load index for a tyre whether single or TA is chosen to support either a half or a quarter of the MTPLM plus a margin of at least 10%.



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As an articulated lorry driver with 21 years experience of going up and down the motorway twin axles are always going to be safer in transit.
I would be reluctant to use anything other than a twin but given my profession I would be.

No doubt they are more difficult to turn manually because of tyre drag. Raising them up as high as possible at the front with the jockey wheel will help somewhat when turning them manually.

Not true as stated by a previous contributor is that they put more stress on the tow bar and rear suspension of the tow vehicle. This is down to how the van is loaded.


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PersonSupatramp
05/8/2016 at 6:41pm
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Quote: Originally posted by navver on 28/7/2016
Twins struggle to get two Alko wheel locks on as required by insurance companies. They have to line two wheels up and end up having to jack it up to do it.

Insurance will be more expensive, some companies won't insure them.

More likely to get stolen.

Servicing more expensive

Less nose weight usually.




1. Wrong! The CC don't insist on ANY Alko wheel locks.

2. Wrong! The CC insure them.

3. Wrong! There is NO evidence to suggest this.

5. Less noseweight?? How?


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" Servicing more expensive "

" Wrong! There is NO evidence to suggest this. "

Ok so a single axle service is, let's say £209 and a twin axle is £239, I must be missing something here, but is £30 not more expensive.

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